Just Getting Back Into Audio and Need Help

Looks like I might up my budget a bit and go with Hegel.  Thx everyone 

Plus 2 on the Hegel integrated amp. I have the Hegel H390 and a LUMIN T2 streamer/DAC. With my old speakers, I used the LUMIN DAC but after I switched to Focal Kanta 2 speakers, I started using the built in Hegel DAC. It was just so much more musical. Took me a while to figure out how much the Hegel had to offer. And pairs super well with Focal speakers. 

Plus1 Hegel integrated. I believe they currently have four models. I’ve had mine for about a year and a half and am still very happy with it.

All the best.

I noticed on Audiogon that Underwood Hifi is offering the MicroMega M-One 100 new for only $1999 ($3000 below list). This integrated like Focal is manufactured in France, and has been featured in audio shows with the Focal Sopra 2, considerably up the Focal line from Aria collection. The streamer per Underwood is not very good, the only weak point.  

discovered the unfortunate truth that everything from the wall power to the wall/floor ceiling treatment, equipment stands, furniture…everything mattered.

+1, everything matters, leave one out and you are spending money on pointless upgrades. Nail them all and save money in the long run because everything just works.

I am a fan of Focal speakers. I would be a little wary of pairing them with class D amplification such as the Parasound you mentioned — out of concern that you will end up with too much of a good thing, with a hyper-detailed, fatiguing and possibly bright sound. Crutchfield is currently offering the 906 on sale for a savings of $440. If it were me, I would use the savings toward a Bluesound Node2 DAC/streamer and look at a class A/B integrated. While I agree that a Hegel integrated with internal DAC would be a good investment and would likely pair very well with the Focals, it would be outside your budget based on the integrated amps you are considering. Of the ones you are considering with the Focals, I would highly favor Musical Fidelity. The onboard DAC is a weak point however from what I have read. So total investment with sale price on Focal 906 and Bluesound Node would be $4000. This would be a truly musical system. Good luck!!!

Soix, I can vouch for what you said about Hegel’s built in DAC. I just got the H590 and its DAC sounds significantly better that the stand alone I had been running, which is a 3,000 unit. I haven’t tried the Hegel streaming device as I’m very pleased with the Innuos rig I’m using.

I think "need" is almost never a factor.  Your challenge is to put together a system that you prefer over your past memories.  It sounds like one of your goals is to minimize the pieces of equipment.

If you can find an integrated with a built in DAC that you like the sound of with the Focal speakers (I have Focal 836v speakers and love them), then you're set.

I can tell you that I love the sound of my Denafrips Ares II DAC and Pathos Classic One MkIII integrated amplifier (1960s Mullard Tubes) feeding my Focal speakers.  New the combination should be under $5k.  Based on the amplifiers you listed this is a bit more than you're looking to spend.

I did the same thing a bit over a year ago. I rationalized that I wanted as much as possible in an integrated amp. I was going to save on cables..etc. So, I prioritized hearing the integrated and speakers together. I then proceeded to put together both analog and digital, but my priority was analog. Then I hooked up with a large internet dealer and a very helpful sales person. I would start off picking the integrated/speaker combination and audition with the dealers best DAC/Streamer or Server combination. I say this because my integrated had a very good DAC and phono stage, but I soon found out that this was a great way to start out, but maybe not ideal when you decide to sell a car, or two and buy an external DAC and streamer.  Make sure that you have the proper inputs for future expansion. For example, I wanted at least two balanced analog inputs. Depending on how much is handled internally with the integrated, accept that your other components might not be ideal, but at least you know that with upgrades to your system and your room, you should be able to match what you heard in the dealers showroom. After this, upgrading power cables and conditioners, interconnects, digital cables, DAC and streamer can be upgraded with time.

For me, I just moved into a new house and had only six months to put together my full system before my wife moved from California to Texas. Her move meant that I had to do all upgrades in six months. So, now on a spending freeze. I upgraded and sent back many components and cables and discovered the unfortunate truth that everything from the wall power to the wall/floor ceiling treatment, equipment stands, furniture…everything mattered. The most shocking realization was how much power cables and conditioners improved the sound and that the last Ethernet cable to my streamer was critical. After all, how could miles of electrical and networking cables be improved in the last few feet? I ponder that and that the universe is expanding, but the energy density per unit of space remains constant.

BTW…my wife figured things out pretty fast…That’s another story…

For a starter system, at an affordable / budget price, and integrated amp with built in DAC is the way to go. Spent most money (and time researching / demoing) on speakers. You can always upgrade later, when / if budget permits.

I recommend putting Rotel and NAD in your list to research / demo. Good luck. Enjoy your new system, and the process of putting it together.

Do I need a separate external dac?

The DAC in your integrated will be fine. IF you want to add room correction to your setup then get a Martin Logan Unison streamer which has ARC room correction and just run the optical out to your integrated. I am using ARC in my two channel setup and make an improvement beyond what just a DAC can do.

The Hegel integrateds tend to have pretty good DACs and I think some of them have built-in streaming capabilities as well, so they’d also be worth a good look.  Best of luck.