Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10

Hey again @stuartk , I’m sure I’m hijacking this great Jazz thread so I’ll shut up after this.

But the overwhelming impression I’ve gathered from perusing numerous threads over a good many years, is that achieving good sound via streaming is more complex and requires more technical expertise
 

I think effort, cost and an open mind without huge technical expertise. But the reward (I feel) is sound that is better than CD, and rivals most any vinyl rig.  I guess  I discount all this  when talking about the ‘value” of streaming!  Take care!

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@fastfreight

Ah. OK. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Accessing music via streaming does look to be more affordable But the overwhelming impression I’ve gathered from perusing numerous threads over a good many years, is that achieving good sound via streaming is more complex and requires more technical expertise, than vinyl or cd playback. I’m more of a music lover than a gearhead and don’t mind the limitations of physical media so I don’t envision getting into streaming.

@tyray

The one chain of decent used cd shops in the Sacramento area closed several years back. Also, I’m not not typically looking for popular/well known pop, rock. country or metal titles. So, online is the best source for me me, in my location, for what I buy.

 

@stuartk

That could be pretty expensive!

That’s why to this day I still crate dig for used albums and even used cd’s whether it’s a walk in record/cd store or perusing Discogs. Here’s a tip for my crate diggin folks out there, always use a record weight when playing used record albums just in case they may be a bit warped. I spend the bulk of my hifi/audio funds on my rig itself so’s I can buy more records and cd’s. But hey, different strokes...

@stuartk hello!  Nah, I mean I can buy these downloads if I ever need.  Between Streaming and opportunity to purchase downloaded files, I am done buying CD's. I was spending way more purchasing CDs 5 years ago vs subscriptions to Qobuz and Tidal (about 20 each) and a wll placed lifetime subscription to Roon years ago. AND, I have discovered WAY more music as Roon does a fantastic job of playing similar music.

 

@fastfreight

I keep a pdf of my many many favorites and playlists, so I can reconstruct (or even purchase) this music if all goes to hell.

 

That could be pretty expensive!. Are you aware of the cost of CDs at present? I’ve been shelling out $20 on average for most of my CD purchases. Granted, many are out of print, but still, compared to the pre-Covid era, discs are considerably more expensive and the titles I’m interested in are becoming increasingly difficult to find. I’m actually buying back-ups for some of my favorites, because I have no idea what will be available in a couple years. 

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Ahhh...Ho! Ho! Ho! Bobba! As Bootsy would say...Around this time of the year...

@acman3, I had a literal Jam Session at my place last night X-Mas Eve 2024.

Those two posts of yours Tomin - A Willed and Conscious Balance (Full Album) and Especially Sahib Shihab - Sahib Shihab and the Danish Radio Jazz Group [Full Album] were off the proverbial Chain.

In fact when I first started to listen to the youtube rip of Sahib Shihab I thought it was AI! Cause the youtube video showed a digital facsimile of a black line continuously going back and forth over the picture of the band in the background which to me resembled an analog recording film or celluloid based video recording medium that had deteriorated over time from oxidation on the film and from the old movie/video film projector scratching the film during playback.

Man was I wrong, about the rip being AI! As I said in one of my previous posts. @acman3 - You (you’re) Killin The Game! Thank you so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATmjXSx3dBs&t=1s

 

@ghosthouse Merry Christmas!

FWIW - the Out Front recording is on Tidal.  It's remastered and sound quality is excellent.

Tidal is great but I find Qobuz generally sounds better.  Clicking on 'Versions' (on Roon) shows Qobuz version is 192kHz 24bit vs the Tidal is CD quality.  With streams like this I don't buy the physical media...(living on the edge).  I keep a pdf of my many many favorites and playlists, so I can reconstruct (or even purchase) this music if all goes to hell.  I would say 70% of music is Qobuz, 20% hard drive and 10% Tidal (tunes that I like and are not on Qobuz).  Also, if I create a Qobuz or Tidal playlist to parallel my roon playlists, it is kept on Qobuz (or Tidal) to basically back up my Roon playlists.  I also use this as I run  non Roon software at my vacation home on an Auralic streamer, using their Lightning software.  Here I see any Qobuz (or Tidal) lists but not my other Roon songs.

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It’s gray and chilly this morning, so what better time to listen to Pharoah Sanders.

@curiousjim glad you liked it! I’m just trying to play catch up to you and all the other poster’s here that have introduced me too soooo much music!

@acman3 

Another great album by a great trumpet player who was taken from us way too early. 

@tyray 

It’s not surprising that I haven’t heard of the Milton Banana Trio, but I really am enjoying this album.

Thanks for sharing.

Milton Banana Trio - Milton Banana Trio (1969, Album)

’Album from the Odeon phase of the Milton Banana Trio. Excellent work by one of the best samba jazz groups in Brazil.’ Translated from Portuguese.

Yep, even with the rough scratching sound of the stylus on the album...

Som Três Show

Amazonas (Keep Talking) · Som Três Som Três Show

℗ 1968 EMI Records Brasil Ltda

Released on: 1968-01-05

Producer: Milton Miranda

Associated Performer, Piano: Cesar Camargo Mariano

Associated Performer, Bass: Saba

Associated Performer, Drums: Toninho Pinheiro

Composer Lyricist: João Donato

Composer Lyricist: Lysias Ênio

WEATHER REPORT LIVE 1972 - Zawinul Shorter Vitous Gravatt Romao

Joe Zawinul fender rhodes, piano & effects

Wayne Shorter tenor & soprano sax

Miroslav Vitous double bass & fender electric bass

Eric Gravatt drums

Dom Um Romao percussions & berimbau

Live concert at Molde Jazz Festival, august 1972

venue Molde Kino, Norway

 

And for years, I thought Dom Um Romao was from either north or south India!

Imagine my surprise when I found out he was from Brazil!

Baden Powell

Samba Triste · Baden Powell

Le Monde Musical De Baden Powell

℗ 1964 Decca Records France

Released on: 1964-01-01

Composer Lyricist: Baden Powell

Composer Lyricist: Billy Blanco

Os Ipanemas

℗ 1964 SONY MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT (BRASIL) LTDA.

Released on: 1964-02-13

Composer: Astor Silva

Composer: Wilson Das Neves

@frogman 

Thanks for sharing. I understand what you mean for sure. Your last sentence is spot on no doubt. Booker wrote about this subject. You may find some of it here in his quotes that sort of approach the subject gently.

https://jazzprofiles.blogspot.com/2013/09/booker-little-1938-1961.html#:~:text=“I%20can't%20think%20in,must%2C%20how%20to%20resolve%20them.

This is such a rich topic to explore overall., I wish we could sit down and have strong coffee and rap. I love it. 

To kick off (and of course this is obvious) ...

Louis Armstrong Hot Fives and Sevens - one of, if not the first time, true improvisation was documented and extended in that limited time of a jazz 78. He went off, and thus, his legendary bandmates were encouraged to do the same. Bewildering and revelatory (even if Jellyroll Morton was doing the same.) The days of King Oliver's strict arrangements and tyrannical control over his bands was over. It was the King or the highway (as Louis found out for himself!) 

Personally, I believe this manifested itself later in Lester Young's solos on the Kansas City Seven sides, where he would lay down lines that were basically all improvised within the melody.  Hypnotizing.

Of course that leads to Bird's Dial sides to Monk's early BN's, and on. Sorry for stating the obvious here. 

In the end you are totally correct. It is generational when the "new thing" appears. 

Where shall we have coffee :) 

 

 

 

 

 

@msbel , interesting comments. Not sure I understand your disagreement with “……some feel contributed to heralding in the early "new thing" among other musician extending at the time”. I’m not familiar with what Booker had to say about this notion. What was the disagreement or objection to others feeling that his music was, in fact, heralding in a new thing? Intended or not, in many ways that was precisely what his recordings from that period were doing.

@msbel 

Thanks for those further Booker L. recommendations.  I'll have to check them out.  Really know nothing of his discography (other than, now, this Out Front).  Other work with Eric Dolphy definitely intrigues me.  I admire ED greatly though I struggle with his well known "solo" albums.  Enjoy him most as side man.  I'll see what the ED albums w/BL hold. 

Re DAC/Streamers...a service like Tidal is a great way to find and sample new music.  But if the recording is a keeper, then I'll buy the physical medium...mainly CDs these days but some vinyl too.  If the 'net goes down, I won't be stranded.  

@ghosthouse 

Hi - nice to hear you are getting into Booker Little.

Booker and Eric Dolphy recorded a lot together. The most known are probably the 5 Spot sessions in 1961, which some feel contributed to  heralding in the early "new thing" among other musician extending at the time.

However I strongly disagree. That was not their intent. Booker spoke extensively about this, as did Dolphy. They do stretch. Booker is a central part of Dolphy's "Far Cry" session as well. 

Another earlier Booker Little session I love is self titled on the Time label. Super melodic focusing on his tone within a more structured ensemble. Also, Craft also just reissued "Booker Little 4 and Max Roach".

He was also on many of the early Max Roach + 4 sessions, as well as Africa Brass with Coltrane,

Anyway, I gush. Thanks for the tip on Tidal. Have not really stretched out to the streamer/DAC arena, Love to though (I think :) That's for another thread eh?

 

 

 

 

I discovered Byrd Tallis and Purcell when i was 20...

Engraved in my soul as hot iron which never cooled since ...

Stile Antico as few others groups are like bread and wine ...

 

When i listen jazz very often for sure i felt great pleasure and surprize...It make me feel more dynamical... The sound texture is enebriating...

But choral music convey pure love and goes way deeper in the soul till we reach sometimes pure contemplative spirit as a boat on a calm sea lulled by voices from everywhere and nowwhere in a space with no dimensions but only meanings.

@mahgister -

No apologies needed...

It's this kind of cross pollination that leads to new types of music and enjoyment.

FWIW, in March I'm going to see/listen to Stile Antico.

https://www.stileantico.co.uk/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94amdGGtLVM

yes

My deepest respect and dont hesitate to communicate to us if you discover a choral music album that please you a lot...

I apologize to speak of choral music on a jazz thread ...

 

 

@mahgister-

"Who buy choral works from the Franco Flemish school ? It is so deeply genius words fail... But without education no one will discover it..."

Thanks for the schoolin'! I recently saw The Tallis Scholars, really enjoying them. I've been looking for similar music. 

David

 

@msbel 

Bought it.  Gosh, what tone (those sustained notes in the opening phrases of Man of Words).  I was pleased to find Eric Dolphy in the quintet.  I wonder how much he influenced the melodic but slightly dissonant themes in various of the compositions.  Some odd-ball chords for sure ;-).  Really enjoying the drumming (and I have a soft spot for trombone).  

 

@msbel 

Thanks for the Booker Little recommendation.  New to me but then so is most everything in this genre.  FWIW - the Out Front recording is on Tidal.  It's remastered and sound quality is excellent.  Listening now.  Enjoying his compositions and playing of the quintet.  Did jump ahead to "Man of Words".  That one carries a load of emotion.  Thanks again.       

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