Loved the Dom Un Romao recording! Thanks. Great arrangements. One of the best Brazilian musicians to be active in the USA jazz scene. The three years he spent with Weather Report were my favorite period for the band. Made me think of another amazing Brazilian musician that I was listening to yesterday. Not nearly as well known, but very enigmatic and a true genius, multi instrumentalist Hermeto Pascoal: https://youtu.be/KGfvsVW5Mw4His more “out” music makes me think “Brazilian Frank Zappa”; complex, full of surprises, and often a little bit of humor: https://youtu.be/epA2DD1ZlSchttps://youtu.be/dgcmoJ1uD8M |
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More Pearson... https://youtu.be/OpeVxr9zAyohttps://youtu.be/Jjiy9xLOHPENow, on another note, as Frogman would say.....This type of 'sound' its just got something that I can hear in some modern jazz....If I would call it emotion, would that be a cliche? is it just because of my'settings' or do you think the same? |
Without a doubt, emotion; and no cliche. That “Angel Eyes” is fabulous. Thanks! I can understand your association to “modern” jazz with the way that Pearson “extends” the harmonies of what is actually an old standard. I would call the sound simply great playing. If there’s no emotion it’s not great playing. And, I do think it is about our ‘settings’; we each have them. The trick is recognizing the emotion even when it’s somebody else’s settings.
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Nice! Paul Bley was a monster. The clip and Alex’s mention of “emotion” made me think of this. I loved this YouTube poster’s comment: **** Chet plays sometimes a note that is so tragic, so wildly sad that it feels like an angel just died, died some agonizing poison by traitor death, and then to top it off no one goes to his funeral. **** https://youtu.be/Rl5wuQn0KJkNo second line at this one. |
One of the definitions of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results. I'll give you an example of how I did this for years.
Since I already had the best jazz artists in my collection, I began to look for new artists and new music; rarely was I successful. This became a habit; a bad habit I might add, plus, at that time you had to buy the record before you listened to it. To make a long story short, I've got a lot of records that need to go to "Goodwill".
Now that I can listen before I buy, and the names of the best jazz artists doesn't change overnight, I intend to have a 99% success rate.
I have no idea why some like this and others like that, but as Rhett Butler said to Scarlett O' Hara, "Frankly My Dear, I Don't Give a Damn". Now I go for the best (as evaluated by yours truly) and leave the rest.
It helps a lot to have other like minded people who have gone through the process of selecting what they consider the best jazz available; that enables me to add "winners" to my collection faster than I can scrape up the cash.
What's music to one person is noise to another person; that's just a fact of life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHnjxPZGEmM
Let us scrutinize that record;
Donald Byrd – trumpet
Julian Priester – trombone
Frank Foster – tenor and soprano saxophone
Jerry Dodgion (#1, 3) – flute
Lew Tabackin (#2, 4) – flute
Duke Pearson – electric piano
Jimmy Ponder – guitar
Roland Wilson – bass guitar
Joe Chambers (#2, 4), Leo Morris (#1, 3) – drums
Nat Bettis – percussion
John H. Robinson Jr. – percussion
Here again we have "Duke Pearson", plus other "A" rated musicians. I only want records that will stand repeated listens.
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Let me explain why older jazz albums are better than new jazz albums. I heard this cut on the radio and bought the CD. I think this is a real nice cut; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSxcrufI6T0I didn't think the rest of the cuts were as nice. I found that to be a consistent pattern when buying "unknowns". Rok confirmed this. When you compare the musicians on older albums with those on newer albums, you will notice many well known musicians on the older albums, as opposed to musicians you never heard of on newer albums; that makes a big difference. While I'm always looking for something new, I don't have money to burn, therefore I'm much more selective; especially with the knowledge that I'll get more music with older albums than with the newer ones. |
Here is an artist who has continued to evolve; we discussed him from the time he was on the "South Side" till now. That was a long time ago; he's still playing some of the same jams, but they are so different. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cytUz9KkK9M |
Regarding sadness and Chet...for me, his music is never sad, just beautiful The same I could say about some other artists too... .Edward Hopper, for example, his paintings never make me feel unconfortable, or lonely, or alienated...just enjoyed the beauty of it.... https://youtu.be/s8bob6MH5bgThoughts? p.s. Orpheus, I agree, but dont tell anyone,ha,ha |
Zoot Sims was one mellow dude who blew a mellow horn. We haven't discussed him much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSMMKEjyLcEI saw musicians in LA that were as good as any we've discussed. The reason they're not famous is because they never left the West Coast; they didn't have to in order to make a living. Zoot is one of the best; I like this interview. |
Frogman, Duke Pearson with Flora Purim is really different; never heard that side of Duke before. I think I'll get both of those.
Thanks.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n2C9ybcjEQ orpheus10 Miles Davis song "So What" is probably the title most identified with him. Every time I hear this song I just think about how fresh it sounds. I don't think about 1959 or any other year. The song is absolutely timeless to me. It sets a mood that defines jazz although putting it into words is actually more difficult then the perception when you listen. I also miss shopping at record stores and going through bins of vinyl records searching for new artists at discount prices. When you were paying two to $5 per album it was easy to take a shot at a new artist to see if you liked him you asked for some Jackie Mclean so here goes. With Donald Byrd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuVDpta66C4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak8i6tW80Mg |
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Nsp and pjw, I listened to all of those Jackie Mac cuts and really enjoyed them. Jackie Mac and Miles were good long time friends, they both found their "individual" voices on their chosen instruments; they both can quite readily be identified; Jackie Mac at times sounds like he's crying through his horn when that's the effect he's trying to achieve.
A good jazz musician doesn't just play music, he tells a story through his instrument; that's why the best musicians aren't always the best "jazz" musicians.
Thanks for the cuts.
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Very glad to see you back in battle 0-10 ! God Bless , the boss is back .
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Glad to here from you too Schubert; we have some of the same problems, but we'll keep them a secret, no need to let everybody know everything.
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Schubert, I let out one of our secrets (here) as opposed to "hear from you"; but don't tell any one.
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Nice music guys, thank you.
Welcome home orpheus.
Good to see you back, schubert.
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I was listening to a female vocalist that sounded vaguely familiar, but I couldn't quite place her; it was Sheila Jordan. The reason I couldn't place her is because I saw her on TV recently. Now that doesn't sound like a good reason, but when I saw and heard her on TV, she was 90, and when she recorded the record I have she was 34; a much younger version of today's Sheila Jordan; she was one jazzy lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SJV_oGVvHQThese are the track listings on "A Portrait of Sheila"; all of them boss. "Falling in Love with Love" (Richard Rodgers, Lorenz Hart) – 2:31 "If You Could See Me Now" (Tadd Dameron, Carl Sigman) – 4:32 "Am I Blue" (Grant Clarke, Harry Akst) – 4:12 "Dat Dere" (Bobby Timmons) – 2:43 "When the World Was Young" (M. Philippe-Gérard, Johnny Mercer) – 4:43 "Let's Face the Music and Dance" (Irving Berlin) – 1:14 "Laugh, Clown, Laugh" (Sam M. Lewis, Joe Young, Ted Fiorito) – 3:11 "Who Can I Turn To?" (Wilder, Engvick) – 3:21 "Baltimore Oriole" (Hoagy Carmichael, Paul Francis Webster) – 2:34 "I'm a Fool to Want You" (Jack Wolf, Joel Herron, Frank Sinatra) – 4:55 "Hum Drum Blues" (Oscar Brown Jr.) – 2:15 "Willow Weep for Me" (Ann Ronell) – 3:28 |
AlexOur music buying experiences are somewhat similar. For many years I shopped in small stores that had good jazz selections and also consulted the all music guide for artists. I also did a lot of mail order and read reviews downbeat and Jazz Time magazine's. Anytime anyone placed an ad for selling music in these magazines I got on their mailing list. There was also a monthly magazine called Cadence which was devoted to All Things jazz including interviews reviews and they also sold music. when all of when all of these things dried up I turn to Amazon and my cable TV jazz station. and also now to this forum which has been a big help. I know you feel you are I know you feel you are stuck in a certain time zone regarding jazz preferences but I can assure you that many new Young Jazz musicians are playing in the style which I believe you like and I will continue to post those artists and hopefully you can find something you like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIpRFVwnIeA |
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My focus this morning is on "Yusef Lateef"; he played: Tenor saxophone, flute, oboe, bassoon, bamboo flute, shehnai, shofar, arghul, koto, piano, vocals. As you can see, he played a variety of instruments; born in 1920 and died 2013, he lived a long and very productive life; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAxdTSc_fts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ycYPKijiMo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ycYPKijiMo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ycYPKijiMo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZSIbGgmD-wThese are his cuts that have withstood repeated listens over the years by me. While the cuts I've chosen are exotic, he's all over the map; including classic jazz on tenor sax. Please comment on whether or not you like Yusef Lateef. |
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I just listened to a couple more songs off of Yusef Lateef's "Live At Peps" and have already ordered volume 1 and 2 on CD.
Really good music thanks Orpheus for posting "Sister Mami" as I never had heard of these live 2 volume releases before.
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Great links of "newer jazz" I especially liked the song from the Grant Stewart "Plus 4" album. I will be adding that disc to my collection.
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I saw Pat Metheney live on a Riverboat, he was on fire. I like the way he re-invents himself; this was a classic example of that.
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Pjw, you have very good taste; "Sister Mamie" is one of my all time favorites by Yusef Lateef.
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John Coltrane; "Blue Trane" can be placed with the other greatest "classic" jazz albums. When you examine the cast, you can see why.
John Coltrane – tenor saxophone
Lee Morgan – trumpet
Curtis Fuller – trombone
Kenny Drew – piano
Paul Chambers – bass
Philly Joe Jones – drums
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I only have only one CD with Lateef as leader. It's entitled 'LATEEF'S ENCOUNTERS' 12 Tracks Each a numbered Encounter. To my untrained and unsophisticated ear, there is a sameness to them all. Here is '12th Encounter'. In the notes there is a short statement under each track's title. #12, "Discovery unlike anxiety can be illuminating".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjDNeY_v1MY
I like him better in this setting. The Fatherland in 1963. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6SSs_LHWnE
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Trane and Quinichette:
My kind of Trane. Very good.
Cheers
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Bar Kokhba Sextet brings together six core members of the Masada family under the leadership of John Zorn. The music act is an improvisational group from New York's best downtown artists, including Cyro Baptista on percussion, Marc Ribot on guitar, Greg Cohen on bass, Joey Baron on drums and Mark Feldman / Erik Friedlander on strings. According to Tzadik, John Zorn's music label, the band's music is "Sephardic exotica for young moderns".
The Bar Kokhba album recorded between 1994 & 1996 together with the Masada musical project was the album that started John Zorn's 2nd evolution into Masada Book Two (II) or Book of Angels during the Winter of 2005 at Tonic (New York City) after performing a ravishing set of sessions of filmworks at the Anthology Film Archives in the same city during the Winter of 2004.
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Rok, did you know that Quinichette is pronounced (“Quinishay”)?
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Quinichette:
Well, I know it now. Our OP is just a wealth of information.
Thanks
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