Is it worth to get 2 m Nodorst vs 1m

@bossa 

You are happy and enjoying your music. That’s the ultimate objective.

Charles 

I ended up getting the 2 meter lengths and I must have auditioned the 2 meter length now that I see them.  All I can say is these two cords, Tyr (pre-amp) and Frey (Dac) lifted my system to a dynamic and resolving level that is noticeable without even doing A/B comparisons anymore.  My level of enjoyment is reflected by my foot tapping and singing to the music and I've had 5-6 hours listening sessions of extreme enjoyment. Now, if i could only get my Krell amp back from repair, I will be in heaven.

1 Meter is enough save some cash

Agreed. I failed to see a compelling case for getting the longer cable presumably to achieve better sound quality. Color me skeptical.

Charles

1 Meter is enough save some cash.

@bossa There's a few things about this that get my antennae twitching.

1. I never buy cables when a 2m is only slightly more expensive than a 1m. This means that (providing the maker isn't scamming) the plugs cost, in your case $2k each end????

2. I always try and buy the top cable in a range, I believe a maker puts everything he has into this.

3. Try Audioquest Dragon a 2m is almost double the price of a 1m and they don't give you a cock and bull story about 2m sounding better.

I can't believe I didn't measure the demo cords (they were marked not for sale demo)  Is there a standard length that Nordost gives to dealers for demo cords?  My situations is the same as Charles1dad...One meter is fine because components are in a stack right next to QB...about  18 inches away.

+1 @jerryg123 

“you just base it on the length….1m is really short for a power cord, so there’s not much flexibility. I would go with a 2m just based on that. My 2 cents.”

It would depend on the proximity of components and outlets in a given audio system and the particular cable’s flexibility.

I use flexible silver wire power cables that are 1 meter length. They are ideal for my situation (And much more neat than the longer cables that they replaced).

Charles

If you just base it on the length….1m is really short for a power cord, so there’s not much flexibility. I would go with a 2m just based on that. My 2 cents. 

Jerryg123,

you're integrated and DAC are pretty good but not in the same league as the p8 and w8 sorry even Simaudio will tell you that and the 10th anniversary dac is much better than the SIM, I put them up head to head and the Sim wasn't even close and it cost way more.

facten,

you think your modwright amp and preamp are as good as the SIM p8 w8? I've heard them and  I like modwright a lot but that's not even in the same league LOL

juanmanuelfangioli,

how does going from 16/44 to 24/96 suck juan? it actually sounds more three-dimensional and open, 24/96 is always going to be better than 16/44. don't know much do you LOL

Up sampling sucks dude. 

Jerry you are dead nuts on he is a sad little man.

Bunch of old junk. 

@urbie DO NOT CARE!

My system is for me you jerk.

You are a sad little troll.

@urbie Keep acting like a child, you at like a grade school kid on the school yard. . My systems are listed bright eyes , go take a look. They don’t fall short of yours

@urbie I play the piano, guitar, piano and drums. Like I said I am out of you little pissing match.

I feel bad for the OP as you hijacked his thread with total nonsense. I will no longer abet your hijacking.

You are a sad little man. 

urbie,  it is not worth engaging with you further as you obviously have nothing worthwhile to share.

Facten,

don't have to arrange a comparison if you don't know by now that ofc wire is inferior to OCC then that's your tough luck ofc wire has at the best 70 Crystal barriers per foot OCC has none so I don't have to compare them to know which one is going to be better you can't change the laws of physics sorry.

@facten He is a child that was shorted in the brains and manhood department. No point even engaging this child.

BTW @urbie spending $70K on a system does not make you an expert on anything.

I have more in my digital frontend than you have in your entire system. So easy there slick.

@urbie  "Stupid & foolish? " Get off your high horse pal.  No where did I state that OFC is better than OCC , or anything else technical. Likewise, I didn't state any criticism positive or negative  of Neotech as I haven't heard them. I also didn't state anything one way or the other about Nordost, Infigo . or Transparent or MIT as I haven't heard them  Why, because unlike you I don't make absolute statements , nor definitive critical statements about   a product that I haven't heard. And, as far as  Infigo goes, it sends out demos; with you just a 4 hour trek away it would have been a perfect opportunity for you to actually have arranged a comparison. Now whether or not you'd allow yourself to have conducted an open minded assessment  and then have provided credible commentary of listening impressions is a whole other story. Probably not likely.

jerryg123,well why don't you tell me about your system Jerry, don't have to have these cables in my system to know they're not going to be as good,ofc wire is inferior to OCC you can't change physics so why don't you tell me how much your system is worth and what gear you have? are you ashamed? LOL

Woosh!  

obviously you can't read very well Jerry I don't look foolish at all because I'm stating facts

@urbie Like I said could care less. I only use Zafino cables (all occ) and some Cardas. 

You really should get a prescription or a counselor.  You have not even had these cables in your system.  So put your little pecker away as I am not going to play in your little pissing contest.

Enjoy your little $70K system. 

You really look the fool.

just like they're ripping Furutech connectors off, looks just like them but not the same quality sorry

jerryg123,

obviously you can't read very well Jerry I don't look foolish at all because I'm stating facts what are you stating? absolutely nothing LOL, maybe you should do your research before you flap your gums and find out how good rectangular OCC single crystal wire is maybe you should tell me about your system, well mine is worth $70,000 and if you'd like to know what it is I'll be happy to tell you.

@urbie Wow this is a massive run on sentence. Only one looking foolish is you and well stupid. 

do you actually even know where my Infigo audio is? well I'll tell you they're here right in my back door in British Columbia Canada 4 hours away from me and I talked to Hans Loomen the owner of the company and he's using ofc wire in his cables which is inferior to anything OCC single Crystal and I even told him about OCC single crystal wire which he had no knowledge of and he said that he was going to look into it because doesn't matter what geometry you use OFC wire is inferior to OCC because it has Crystal barriers in The wire, the best ofc wire has 70 Crystal barriers per foot OCC has none the crystals are 125 M long so unfortunately for you you can't change the law of physics when the signal has to jump through little fractures it causes minute harmonics to be fractured off the sound which causes all kinds of bad things to happen, ofc wire is old technology OCC single crystal is far superior maybe you should do some research and find that out cuz you make yourself look very stupid and foolish LOL

@urbie actually not true on the OCC the process has been being done in China for about 4 years now.

I rally do not care as I buy Zafino cables and I will not talk shite about a product that I have never listened to. Unlike you. You can put that in your pipe and smoke it.

So what if those cables are made 4 hours from your house. No one cares, I could call that Hans Loomen from Texas. 

Here this may help you.

Occ copper wire Manufacturers & Suppliers, China occ copper wire Manufacturers Price (made-in-china.com)

@urbie "actually I have and obviously you haven't done your research and it's not a sales pitch "

Who knows what specific cables you have actually listened to or not, you made the exact critical statement about Infigo and per the vendor you haven't listened to that cable. My question to you was about specific cables, not generalizations about wire type that you then turn into absolutes about particular cables

Jerryg123

that video you put up of that guy talking about single Crystal is from a guy who doesn't know what he's talking about, he's buying OCC single Crystal wire from China, well guess what China doesn't make OCC single crystal wire and he's been getting ripped off, but he is right though OCC single crystal wire is far superior to ofc.

@bossa Perhaps ask your dealer if he has a Red Dawn power cord that you can demo along with the Tyr and Frey that you already have for comparative purposes. There are many threads already on Audiogon regarding good power cords and I don't want to sidetrack your original question more than what has already happened.

rsf507,

and just so you know that Furutech wire uses ducc copper which is not as good as OCC single Crystal they use a combination of both o c c and d u c c well d u c c is one level down from OCC still good wire but not as good as OCC single Crystal and the ducc wire is made by Mitsubishi, there is not any copper wire out there better than OCC single crystal wire and then it depends how smart the engineering team is putting together the wire geometry that's also extremely important that's why there's even differences in OCC that's cheaper compared to OCC wire that's more expensive and OCC rectangular single crystal wire is even better than the round wire that Furutech uses, Neotech rectangular OCC wire is even better than the round OCC wire, check out the Neotech Amazon and Sahara under rectangular wire on their website not cheap but well worth it cuz I upgraded from the round OCC to the Neotech Sahara which is their copper rectangular OCC wire and it totally blew away my round OCC wire, my speaker wire was $2,200 US and this stuff is $4,300 US and it is much better.

Greetings 

‘I don’t think I would be able to hear the difference between a 1m cable vs a 2m cable. I use 1.5m or 2m cables due to the location of my equipment. Maybe one day I’ll hookup a 1m cable to 1 of my mono blocks and a 2m on the other.

If a 1m cable works for you go for it.

I just upgraded my power cables for my power amps. I purchase the MIT Matrix Rev AC2 power cables. Really a nice cable. My system sings very nicely with MIT cables. 
Remember that no matter what you buy there is always something better out there.

‘Joe Nies

@lak Are there any specific cords you'd recommend to me for audition that would rival these Tyr and Frey 2's...that are so much lower in price?

RSf507, 8,000 for the Furtech...now i feel better.  :)

Been beaten to death OCC vs OFC. 

Buy what you like,  and like what you like.

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'you hit on the audiophile neurotic FOMO thing."

bossa-at least you have self awarness of the affliction!

I have had the mighty Odin II & Valhall II in place of Heimdall II in my setup...

My setup isn't at the level their intended for(or maybe just no having  a fat wallet?) 

Being a Nordost fan, I get it. The reason I have mine is  through exceptional buys(used/Ind. connections) 

Lets get real- the stuff @ MSRP is ridiculous, equally "performing" cable can be found for considerably less, just not as cool looking.

Happily residing dead center in the cables do/ don't war zone.

Everyone get your Turkey on!

I have not heard any other power cords other than these PS Audio pluses which I was given and seem to not do much for the sound.  I'm located in Fitchburg, Wi right next to Madison.  

Sorry @urbie but what type of wire is only part of how a cable sounds so when you say "OCC single crystal is far superior to anything...." I don't agree. Have you heard the Furutech Project V1 cable? I've heard nothing close this after 40+ yrs of hearing many, many different power cords. Once heard there is no going back to anything else IMHO

@bossa 

Out of curiosity, I'm wondering if you have had an opportunity to audition any other power cords in your system. I ask because when reading your original question it sounds as if you have not experimented with other power cords.

I'm not saying that Nordost power cords aren't good, but what I'm wondering is if a different less expensive power cord ($500 or less) would accomplish your same goals. If you wanted to share your location perhaps someone in your area would be willing to lend you a few after-market power cords.