I have the opportunity to buy a couple of Nordost power cords, Tyr and Frey at a 15 discount. I auditioned the cords in a one meter length and they made a nice improvement. The dealer quotes NOrdost as saying, it will sound better in a 2 meter. I have a dedicated circuit for my Qbase strip which has the whole stereo plugged in. I thought i read somewhere that a dedicated circuit makes the longer length improvement questionable. Adding another meter to both increases cost by about 1000. They already cost close to 5,000 so this would be closer to 6,000. I can’t test any of this. I just have to make a decision. Would like your thoughts. Thanks.
actually I have and obviously you haven't done your research and it's not a sales pitch it's a fact ofc copper is inferior to OCC single Crystal copper and you can ask anybody on here that knows anything and they'll tell you the same thing,OFC copper has 400 Crystal barriers per foot they're little fractures in The wire and the signal has to jump through those little fractures and it causes the sound to be hard, bright cold, edgy, any one of those things are all of those things together, OCC single Crystal copper has zero Crystal barriers in 700 ft so you get a much more natural open three-dimensional sound from OCC wire, companies like transparent and MIT that rip people off when they're using cheap ofc junk wire and charging $40,000 for a speaker wire is a rip off as far as I'm concerned and anyone that pays $43,000 for a piece of wire should have their head examined, and just so you know there's now something even better than round OCC single crystal wire and that's rectangular OCC single crystal wire which outperforms the round OCC, I've been at this for 40 years and I've tried all kinds of cables that's how I know that OCC single crystal is far superior to anything ofc on the market and just so you know my system is worth $70,000.
@urbieAre you going to post the same comment on every power cord thread? Have you personally done the comparisons against the specific power cords that you denigrate? Offer up more than what appears to constitute a sales pitch.
I am not a technically inclined audiophile. I am a listener who doesn't want to "squint his ears' to hear an improvement in my stereo. As I said, it's been many years since a purchase. My interconnects have broken, I've lost my Krell amp to repair for the umpteenth time and I contacted Nordost about some interconnects to consider and their response was that a power cord made more of a difference than the interconnects. When I tried the cords, Tyr and Frey 2's, I was flabbergasted at the difference they made ( yes the prices are stupid high) but the sound improvement was equivalent to a component change. I have Valhalla 1 as my speaker cables and a Valhalla 1 power cable feeding the system from the wall to the Qbase. I was amazed at the difference the Tyr made when I replaced the stock cord on my Krell KCT pre-amp. The dynamics, imaging etc. just exploded to an open engaging sound. This was surpassed when I combined the Frey with my old PS Audio DAC...it got way better. I have a Rotel amp that is the very weak link in my system (i bought it because the Krell will be gone for months in order to play my Theil CS6 speakers.) I tried a Heimdall on the amp with the other two and didn't notice a further change. My Krell has a captive cord so unless i finally change that, I will buy only two cords. A dealer i spoke with felt that these cords make the biggest difference on lower current components like cd players, pre-amps and Dac's. I have to say that while I feel dumb paying these prices, when you get an effect so captivating it's hard to ignore it because of price.
Based on testing I’ve done with various high-end power cords, I have not been able to detect a difference within the music when comparing a 1/M cord to a 2/M or 3/M power cord.
Neither have I. Having said this, I know at least one power cord brand that recommends longer power cords (2 meter) for optimum performance. Wireworld. They call their power cords “conditioning” power cords. https://wireworldcable.com/collections/power-conditioning-cords
Unlike all other audiophile power cords, our power conditioning cables were developed through direct comparisons to battery power, the ultimate in sonic and visual purity. Their elegant plugs feature silver-clad contacts, for the quietest and lowest loss connections available. Our flat cords are also the only shielded high end power cord design that has passed the strict VDE German safety certification. Wireworld power conditioning cord models differ in their conductor material, as the smoother current flow of superior conductors provides additional improvements in sound and image quality. Since they function as filters, longer lengths provide higher performance.
Based on testing I've done with various high-end power cords, I have not been able to detect a difference within the music when comparing a 1/M cord to a 2/M or 3/M power cord. In addition to that +1 @charles1dad
1 You’ve used their 1 meter length cable and confirmed that it sounds “great”.
2 In terms of logistics the shorter cable is the better fit/solution. I’d stop there and enjoy what you have.
I am not convinced that the longer cable will yield a sonic advantage.
@bossa Can’t you conclude that the mose expensive component always sounds better. 😁 The more I read this thread the more I think Nordost is just pushing more expensive equipment and they know a lot of people are very suggestable and will go online and post that the 2M sounds better.
Frankly I’d put my money into electronics and room treatments and use a 1m cable from ice age audio in michigan (where it is the ice age right now).
Edit to add: I've never really considered Nordost so i just went and looked at their design. Frankly they aren't heavy enough for me to use them on an amp. Not enough copper. That's my 2c.
I wouldn't even bother with nordost they use cheap ofc wire, and they rip people off with their high prices for it if you want to use the best wire out there use rectangular OCC single crystal wire made by Neotech, check out their Amazon and Sahara the Amazon is their rectangular silver OCC wire and the Sahara is their rectangular copper OCC wire it's even better than the round OCC, OCC single crystal wire has been proven to be the best wire for audio for over 50 years now anything ofc at any price is inferior.
Chayro, you hit on the audiophile neurotic FOMO thing. I haven’t bought anything in forever and this is huge price. I will wonder. I did audition the 1 meter Frey and Tyr...they were great. As far as the length, it will be difficult for me to manage the 2 meter because all the components plug into my Qbase, which is a short distance. I shouldn’t trust them but I have a tendency to believe Nordost. Of course it’s in their financial interest to say so...(they say the same thing about 2m cable vs 4m.. They say 4 sounds better)
Sound quality will be the same - as far as you will be able to tell.
The convenience of having 2M cords could be worth it over time if there is any chance at all that your system configuration might change. 1M cords are good for monoblocks sitting next to an outlet, or gear sitting next to a power conditioner, but not much else.
It’s worth it if you are going to beat yourself up wondering whether you should have bought the 2 meter cord. As long as you’re buying expensive cables without audition, you might as well go all in for the extra grand.
The one meter works fine as far as length...i can use them. It's about this claim that the sound quality is better at 2 meters vs one meter...any thoughts on that?
‘I recommend going with the 2m length. All my power cables are either 1.5m or 2m.
Short cods can me quite hard to terminate due to the heavy gauge and there minimum bend radius.
‘I learned my lesson years ago when I purchased 1m long PS Audio power cords. They were so stiff that I couldn’t use them. I was trying to save money and all I did was waste money.
Never skimp on audio equipment you will regret if later.
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