Is it too much to ask....

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I am not interested in just dumping it off on the first fool passing by.

There needs to be a whine catagorey so people can get their whine on.

but there was a time when Audiogon had sophisticated buyers and sellers.

Hey, be a true audiophile and be self taught about this activity and hobby. You have to pay to play.

And thus I never had to deal with some whiny idiot. LOL.

this site was cool before but you knew it couldnt last but thats progress.Anytime something good gets going and the masses find out it naturally starts to decay.Witness the whiner who begs for a meaningless clue

...what an amazing bunch of imperious, derisive, condescending pompous asses.
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Smile when you say that!

Mitch4t, your post says it well. Music and the love of music is the foundation for places like these forums. Music as an art form is beautiful, but some of the thoughts expressed here are just plain ugly. What a dichotomy!

Yes it is!

Why is it that our national sense of entitlement manifests itself even in the sale of audio equipment? Is there no respect for private property any more?

The amp is owned by the seller, and last I checked (it has been a while though), the seller pays the fees. If you don't like the ad because the seller won't list the ratings, then move on to the next ad. As you indicated, there ARE plenty more to look at. Why get all worked up? If the amp doesn't sell because of a poor listing, that is the owner's consequence, not yours!

In the past couple years, AudiogoN has moved from an enthusiast focused community to market place community focused on bringing buyers and sellers together. The responses to this post make this pretty clear...in my opinion.

I have a thought about all this but you all should know what it is, so i'm not telling. Ha!

I wasn't asking for someone to re-iterate *every* single spec. on the amp. But it would seem prudent to at least list the power rating, perhaps the THD and such, the weight, and dimensions.

Asking a potential buyer to Google up these simple facts will, IMHO, reduce your chances of selling the amp. I try to divine the power rating from the Mfgr's. Model #, but sometimes that is not possible.

BTW, I've been in this hobby for many, many years (45+) and I know a few things about how amps work, and how they're spec'd. - not a newb by any means.

Folks who get all self-righteous and proudly declare "I would never deign to publish the specs. of my amp!, Certainly, sir, you should know ALL of the specs. of ALL the amps there are out there!" amuse me...

As for "why would anyone look at 40 or 50 amps?" Oh, I dunno, perhaps I was helping a friend find suitable amplification for his system. It's a sure bet I'd never recommend one of Viridian's pieces, no matter the specs. or price...
-RW-

Marty, get the hell out of here.....and take your logical rationality with you damn it!! ;)

First:

Marty, get the hell out of here.....and take your logical rationality with you damn it!! ;)

Hilarious!

Second:
I've bought (& sold) many amps over the years. Never have I given a thought to whether or not specs were listed in the sellers ad. If I'm interested in trying a piece out, I will do some research, ridiculously simple in this age of Google, and if it meets my needs, I'll buy it. I personally couldn't care less if specs are listed. I like to see a photo, but even that's not required. I have bought pieces based on how the member rated the piece and their previous feedback.

Maybe the wattage is private to some, just like the reserve price on an auction.

I wish they'd post the COLOR of the amp. Last one I bought on A was silver. I wanted black.
Just doesn't sound right.
Got paint?

Even the manufacturer of my amp does not give execpt specs.

Output power more than 100 W at 8 Ohm.

This is all the info I have about the power output of my amp. Also many manufacturer lie about the power an amp delivers. They state that an amp delivers 100W at 8 Ohm and 200W at 4 Ohm and 400W at 2Ohm. This looks nice on paper, an amp that can double its output each time. But what they do not tell is that the amp delivers maybe 150-160W at 8 Ohm, 250 at 4 and 360 at 2 Ohm.

I would take power output stated by the manufacturer with a (large) grain of salt.

So how meaningfull is it to plish those figures.

"After all, isn't the *most* inmportant spec. how much the amp delivers?"

From a marketing standpoint, but it really does not say much about sound or build quality or how it will mate with your intended speakers.

Really, anytime I see something interesting, i Google it for more information and reviews.

Apparently Yes.

For those out there that are familiar with the term "audiophile," it's this kind of stuff that adds to any of the negative connotations out there about people with our interests.