I need a replacement preamp for a TV pre tuner and stereo system.


I need a replacement preamp for a TV pre-tuner and stereo system.

My PS Audio BHK Pre-Amplifier went bad.  Every time I change the volume through the remote control it sends electronic clicks to every speaker.  I had to disconnect it to keep from causing speaker damage. After I disconnected the BHK and rerouted the cables so that the MARANTZ Pre Tuner did all the volume work, the clicks stopped.

The replacement preamp will have to handle a 7.1 system.  
It will need to have a Home Theater undisturbed pass-through.
It will need to accept BALANCED XLRS for 7 Speakers.

My Current System:

LG OLED C7p 4K 65 in. TV
Marantz AV7703 Pre Tuner
Martin Logan Expression ESL 13A Electrostatic Speakers
Pass Labs 260.8 Mono Amplifiers
PS Audio BHK PreAmplifier
Denefrips Terminator DAC
Denafrips GAIA DDC
Sony Blu Ray UBP-X800 CD/Blu Ray Player
SVS PB 16-Ultra Subwoofer

The Marantz works fine now.  It just does not have the musicality and fullness of tone that the PreAmplifier added.

Thanks for any suggestions.
 

firstonetallguy

@kofibaffour 

Right now, the budget is open.  The higher the cost, the proportionally higher the quality must be.

firstonetallguy

Just to clarify, you mentioned 

It will need to have a Home Theater undisturbed pass-through.

Does that mean you will be keeping the Marantz processor in the system for surround sound processing, HDMI switching, etc.?  If so, then you are just looking for a replacement for the PS Audio that has a home theater by-pass and balanced outputs... correct?

If you are looking for a replacement for both the PS Audio and Marantz, then the rest of you gear, the high end choices are boing to be limited.  While I have not heard it, @kofibaffour's recommendation on the McIntosh is probably be the best "musically".

 


@jasonbourne71

I am currently listening to the Marantz AV7703, which is hooked directly to my amplifiers.  I think I can hear all that is part of the song, but it does not seem to have the tonal range, harmonics, and vibrations that the PS Audio BHK PreAmplifier gave me.  It appears that the music has been flattened.
This is what I meant by  “musicality and fullness of tone”.

@jeffbij

I plan to keep the Marantz processor for all sound processing, HDMI switching, etc.  I am only interested in replacing the BHK Pre Amplifier which caused my speaker popping problems. When I removed it from the sound chain, the popping disappeared on everything.
 

@kofibaffour

Both of these units are AV processors.  If I replace the Marantz, I would like to get a Trinnov Altitude or a small Lyngdorf.  However, getting it approved by the wife, without many convincing and understandable non-audiophile reasons, would be very difficult.  The Monoprice Monalith HTP-1 might be a reasonable compromise.

@firstonetallguy 

Sounds like you were happy with the sound of the BHK preamp and it's home theater bypass mode before it developed a fault.  It is, or was, a nice pre.  Any reason why you don't get it repaired by PS Audio?  It might just be a bad tube or a simple fault in volume attenuator.   Or buy a used one to replace it?  There are 4 for sale right now on Audiogon.

Repairing your pre is likely the cheapest option unless you’re also looking for a change/improvements.  The Spatial Audio Raven, Aric Audio Motherload  XL, and the Backert Rhumba/Rhumba Extreme are worth a look, and Spatial and Backert offer trial periods, which is nice.  Best of luck. 

As the co-designer of the Raven, but also a big fan of multichannel sound (going back to the invention of the Shadow Vector quadraphonic decoder in 1973), I’d advise simply getting the PS Audio preamp repaired. (Yes, we could make a 5.1 version of the Raven, but the market would be very small.)

The clicks are coming from DC leakage in part of the audio circuit. Any time there is any DC on a switch or volume pot, you’ll get crackles or pops and bangs. In fact, that’s about the only thing that will produce those symptoms. So, a cap has gotten leaky or a power supply has failed, which should be easy to find by a qualified tech who knows the circuit. Thus, PS Audio, who should know what’s inside their own preamp.

To the best of my knowledge, PS Audio does not publish schematics (very few high-end manufacturers do). You do not want to pay (by the hour) for a tech to guess what the circuit is by tracing the wires and circuit board layout. You want a factory authorized repair station that has direct access to the original schematic, so they can quickly find the failed part and replace it. That will be far cheaper than getting an audiophile-grade multichannel preamp ... those things cost $10,000 or more, because the market is so small.

It is kind of annoying to pay such astronomical prices for a preamp with only a slightly better grade of op-amp, but again, when production runs are small, costs go up several times. Also, AV equipment has built-in licensing fees for Dolby Decoding, DTS, various auto-EQ systems, HDMI interfaces, etc. etc. These fees are prohibitive for small audiophile manufacturers, but average out for Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, et al.

@lynn_olson

Thank you for your response to my inquiry.  I know absolutely zero about how the electronics work.  I will call tech support at PS Audio and discuss my problem with them.  I will be holding a copy of your instructions and use it as reference material for our discussion.  
This was most helpful.

firstonetallguy