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I'm sure my new Moon 780D can reveal more than what my DH Labs AES/EBU delivers it.

What an improvement over my decade-old factory-modded Wadia S7i ! ! 
The Moon 780D is the most transparent DAC I've heard.  I'm  listening for hours on end. 

The DH Labs 110 Silver was serviceable for a 2009 machine,  but I think this new DAC deserves now a more sumptuous feast.  Sim Moon is not forthcoming with the kind of cabling they use with the 780D, even though they used the exact unit I purchased as a demo in their shows. 

And I can't afford to join the 'Cable of the Month' club, switching out wires at intervals.

So I'm polling you other Moon DAC owners for your experience with AES/EBU cables and even single-ended
 IC's output to a tube preamp.  I'm prepared to pay for quality.

Thanks so much,
- Dr. John
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lalitk
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I recommend Audience Au24 SE or Acrolink 7N-D7000 AES/EBU digital cables. I’ve used them both and they are excellent cables. 

You should call the cable company and get few cables to try out from their extensive library. Be patient with the process and you will end up with a cable that sounds best in your system. 
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jzzmusician
155 posts
 
Shunyata.
The Venom is very, very good at about $300.
The Alpha is even better at about $1000.
The Sigma is best at  2k.
I have the Alpha and the Venom. 

Stunning.
illuminator
59 posts
 
 Why don’t you call a Sim audio dealer  and ask them. The Tone Studio AV in Indianapolis, In. is a dealer, call and ask Mark.   Just find other dealers and call them and ask them. 
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dr-john OP
72 posts
 
thanks - my own dealer is likewise out of state, but I imagine any Moon dealer could vouch for what cabling maxes out the DAC's prowess. 
andrewkelley
275 posts
 
I have the same DAC I use blue jeans cables ethernet to do all the streaming. I have a modded Mac mini as my ROON core. Ethernet our of the Mac into the ethernet switch and ethernet into the 780d. I have a low noise power supply to the switch. I mod the moon with synergistic blue fuses and audioquest z power cord. I use pure silver IC from this guy joe at tempo electric. 
http://www.tempoelectric.com
He’s great to work with, send him an email and he will make anything you need. I grew up in a studio and for me it doesn’t get any better than this. Also, believe it or not, ROON And SimAudio  recommend ethernet  over any other input. 
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dr-john OP
72 posts
 
andrewkelley - thanks for being up front.  Why Sim Moon didn't want to get specific with me - who knows ? From Moon 260D transport to DAC they recommended AES/EBU and likewise ethernet for streaming. Pure silver IC, eh ?  My IC from pre-amp to amp is Shindo Silver - so what you say makes sense.  Thanks.
denman
112 posts
 
I use a the Kimber Orchid and it's my forever choice. Many excellent reviews / comments from various forums. My search is over.
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rja
2,370 posts
 
+1 for Shunyata. I’m using 1.5m XLR Sigma between DAC & CD Transport and like it very much.
Be sure to try before you buy because YMMV.
tweak1
3,658 posts
 
I used to use DHL top of the line interconnects to my then Rogue M150s,  but eventually when I changed out I realized the DHL were thin sounding  

I highly recommend WireWorld

their series 7 is excellent and their series 8 a cut above

you might consider coax

WW offers a money back guarantee
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jafant
19,602 posts
 
dr-john
Another +vote for Audience brand.  Have fun and keep us posted on the cabling tried w/ your Sim Moon.
Happy Listening!
illuminator
59 posts
 

Think about this, if SimAudio recommended certain brands of cabling, don't you think they make various unrecommended brands pretty mad?


If you had asked them what cabling they used at a specific show, maybe they'd tell you.


Of course, the dealers will recommend the brands they carry.  But, these brands probably work well or they wouldn't be using them in their setups.

zprr
306 posts
 
Congrats on your new purchase Dr. John!
Simaudio has paired up with Nordost (not exclusively) in a number of their systems at this year's Axpona and Munich shows.  I currently run Heimdall2 ethernet from a Melco server to the 780d v2 and use Tyr2 xlrs from the 780 to the 740p pre and then to the 870 amp. To my ears, they are a great match.
hgeifman
2,187 posts
 
For my SimAudio 380D DSD DAC, I use the following 2 cables:

Audience Au24 SE+ USB Cable (their newest USB cable)

Kubala-Sosna Emotion AES/EBU cable, Balanced XLR


I prefer the AES/EBU cable for most of my listening since it sounds the best. The Kubala-Sosna Emotion Is the best cable I have ever used and is well worth an audition. I immediately noticed an improved sound quality when I installed this cable. It is expensive but, IMHO, is well worth the cost for its improved sound quality.

I also use the Kubula-Sosna Expression Interconnect Cable (2 cables), balanced XLR connection between my SimAudio DAC and SimAudio 600i V2 integrated amplifier.






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dr-john OP
72 posts
 
thanks so much for all of your responses. And now I understand why Sim Moon isn't recommending any specific cables, although I did ask simply enough what they used at their show, again to no avail.  I appreciate your feedback and experience.

- Dr. John




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dr-john OP
72 posts
 
I finally decided on Audience frontRow series cord and cables in/out of the Moon 780D.  Very satisfied. 
zprr
306 posts
 
Awesome. Did you end up comparing a few?
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dr-john OP
72 posts
 
yes I did do comparisons in my system and settled for Audience frontRow series cables and power cord - they won, hands down. 
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