Help with Preamp Selection and Network player


Looking for tube preamp. I have the opportunity to purchase three different preamps around the same price.
-Primaluna Dialogue Premium
-Cary SLP-89l w/upgrades
-Luxman CL-38uc
Looking for opinions on sound comparisons and flexibility. Will be used in front of Parasound A21 feeding ATC SCM19's.
Also, narrowed down my choices for streamer/dac down to Cary DMS-600 and Naim NDX-2. 
These two units offer the ability to use my existing CD transport, HDD loaded w/music, Roon ready, and future NAS.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks 
amboguzzi
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Oddfyi and Mes we have a right to post and you should ask the op if we what we are saying is beneficial. 

I mean how many dealers sell Cary.
ATC, and Naim? Go to ATC page and check


Oddfyi believe it or not not everyone replies to our posts and purchases from us. 

Clearthink thank you for your fairness. 

Oddfyi we have over 30yrs of professional exp plus one of the largest collections of gear in the area if you dont think we can offer great advice you are sorely mistaken.

Please show some civility you act like we took the prize from your cereal box.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
First responder - again- the Oracle, pitching his wares. It never ends. And Clearthink (really?) put your Thesaurus down or I shall report thee to thy  moderators. ( C'mon gon, let this one slide)

oddiofyl
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Your posts almost always have an agenda, and that is to self promote for financial gain....."

You're posts are to threaten, attack, humiliate contributors that you seek to limit, restrict, or silence when they attempt to share they're thoughts, opinions, and experiences you are the type of person who only wants to read things that he agrees with and everyone else you try to shut out because you feel threatened, inferior, or inadequate when presented with those with more knowledge than you're own. 
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2psyop
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The forum is mainly to support and sell gear. Audiocircle helps manufacturers and Audiogon helps dealers."

This is predominately an accurate observation, summation, and characterization of this group it is part of a business that has overhead, expenses, and obligations and so profit must be made from the group in some method and there is nothing at all improper, misguided, or objectionable about dealers offering information, advice, or consultation it is not a violation of this group's Terms of Service even though there are some naive contributors hear who believe they have the right, authority, and influence to prevent, restrict, or limit comments made by others hear and we should not yield to, respect, or abide those who seek to silence, shame, or threaten legitimate, registered, and authenticated users of this group. 
Audiocircle does the same thing as Audiogon. The forum is mainly to support and sell gear. Audiocircle helps manufacturers and Audiogon helps dealers. You can get good advice if you look PAST these guys. In fact, because of what they say in these forums is why I would NOT buy from them. Not to mention the arrogant attitude they always have about what is best and what is not.
Oddfyi you cant have it both ways we announce we are dealers because we are told we have to let people know our affiliations.

Others dealers such as Audio Connection also say they are dealers in their retorts you dont have an issue with them now do you?

When we list our products in posts you think free advertising we list those brands to prove a point.

If you are interested in computer servers whoose advice would you take the guy who sells one or two brands or the guy who sells five?

It is up to the poster or reader if they want to reach out to us or not.

The reality is only a few people have ever purchased from us while our posts have helped many.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

oddiofyl
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.Audiogon is their free advertising ... while you and I pay for items we wish to sell...how is that ok?"

That is a question that should be posed, addressed and directed to this group's team of  experienced, knowledgeable, and thoughtful moderators. Their sole, solitary, and final judgement shall assess, decide, and determine whether such allegations have truth, merit, or validity and will then establish the appropriate official response based upon they’re investigation, review, and inquiry.
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oddiofyl, read the policy. This is not your business. If you don’t like it skip the thread. You’re polluting the threads with your posts without any useful content. I’m probably guilty as well responding to you.

audiotroy
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Oddfyi you and a small group of others have issues with us."

It is not for oddiofyl or anyone else hear other than the forum's panel of experienced, knowledgeable, and thoughtful moderators to prevent, limit, or restrict others from posting or contributing to this group provided it is done withing the confines of this group's Terms of Service. Oddiofyl has already threatened me and I will remain firm, resolute, and determined to defend the rights of all to post here provided those contributions are within the guidelines established by the group and which are equally applicable to all.

Alleged abuses of Audiogon policy should be brought to the attention of the group’s moderators who in their sole, solitary, and final judgement shall assess, decide, and determine whether such allegations have truth, merit, or validity and will then establish the appropriate official response based upon they’re investigation, review, and inquiry and it is improper, inappropriate, and unwarranted for individual users, posters, or members of the group to call for action outside of a formal inquiry
Oddfyi you and a small group of others have issues with us.

Many people do not they are not as vocal as you. 

If you actually look at many of our responses we are giving good advice or calling attention to products that might not be getting notice.

The fact that we sell and have direct experience with many brands helps enrich the forums.

We started a post to find out about the new peachtree gear and it was shut down because of you and george 

We do not sell Peachtree at all but are looking at flnding a 1k streming amp.

Is that fair.

You will find we have many more fans then you and your merry band of detractors.

The fact that you would not want to visit our shop which is one of the best on the East Coast because of a forum post is proof positive of how small you are.

If you really want to gauge reality it isnt on a forum it is in reality.

Dave and  Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

oddiofyl
Audio troy uses this forum to advertise for free... it's disgusting...."

Alleged abuses of Audiogon policy should be brought to the attention of the group's moderators who in their sole, solitary, and final judgement shall assess, decide, and determine whether such allegations have truth, merit, or validity and will then establish the appropriate official response based upon they're investigation, review, and inquiry and it is improper, inappropriate, and unwarranted for individual users, posters, or members of the group to call for action outside of a formal inquiry and in this instance the accusation, charge, and complaint against Audio Doctor is in my opinion unwarranted, without basis and unjust.
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oddiofyl"He is undermining legitimate posts by plugging his retail establishment..."

Alleged abuses of Audiogon policy should be brought to the attention of the group's moderators who in their sole, solitary, and final judgement shall assess, decide, and determine whether such allegations have truth, merit, or validity and will then establish the appropriate official response based upon they're investigation, review, and inquiry and it is improper, inappropriate, and unwarranted for individual users, posters, or members of the group to call for action outside of a formal inquiry and in this instance the accusation, charge, and complaint against Audio Doctor is in my opinion unwarranted, without basis and unjust.
This has been brought to their attention by many posters yet nothing is done...

oddiofyl "Boycott Audio Doctor.... flagrant abuse of Audiogon policy"

Alleged abuses of Audiogon policy should be brought to the attention of the group's moderators who in their sole, solitary, and final judgement shall assess, decide, and determine whether such allegations have truth, merit, or validity and will then establish the appropriate official response based upon they're investigation, review, and inquiry and it is improper, inappropriate, and unwarranted for individual users, posters, or members of the group to call for action outside of a formal inquiry and in this instance the accusation, charge, and complaint against Audio Doctor is in my opinion unwarranted, without basis and unjust. 


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Tomic there is a lot going on with this gentleman's post hence the suggestion to have him call us  as we sell most of the brands he was inquiring about. 

The Cary SLP does he mean the SLP 98? Don't think there was an 89.

What kind of cables is he running? Musical preference?

The Parasound is warm does he want warm both the Cary and the Prima Luna would be a bit on the warm side? 

The Naim Ndx 2 is excellent it is not overly warm like most Naim gear is, rather clean  sounding, great feature set. 

Is he going with a tube preamp for soundstaging or to amelorate a perceived brightness?

The SLP 98 was a fantastic preamp very musical and not too lush. Pesonally if he does not want too much warmth then the CJ ET 3 now discountinued would be more neutral. The ATC are very well balanced and are neither dull nor bright, the amp is a bit on the warm side. 

Hence we are trying to find out what the OP is trying to create as a sonic balance.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ






NAIM for all the quirks will be in the digital business long after CARY....ai would stick w them for a fairly solid app that will only get better over time.

sort of agnostic on preamp opinions on the 3 you mention...

one advantage of the forum is the exchange of ideas and inputs FOR ALL to see and learn by....just my two cents...as opposed to advertising....
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Amboguzz 

We sell Cary, Parasound, ATC, and Naim 
Perhaps we can help.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ