Good Morning,
My apologies for not getting back to this thread and the question asked. April and May are always rough months with 3 shows to deal with (we show at only two of them - but next year we will be at Munich) as well as new product introductions at EP and CPT.
The science behind Balanced Power has been proven out over decades, mainly by EQUI=TECH. Fabulous products made very well by a great company. We apply the same techniques and proven formula at more specific power levels.
Our balancing transformer was designed by John Levreault and was proven out over a near-to 2 year investment in design and prototyping. We split the 120v (+ground) into 2 x 60 volt legs out of phase to one another and utilize a "drain" to remove the Common Mode Noise. Our product works extremely well and has proven itself to be a major winner for those that have tried it.
The E=C is protected by a Fast Acting Circuit Breaker for safety.
The inlet and outlet cords along with the Male and Female IEC connectors we use are incredible and stand alone in their quality.
There are some wonderful power cords out there - some really sensational products... but Balanced Power in and of itself is THE PLACE TO BEGIN when dealing with inherent noise we all face with The Mains here in the USA. Begin with Balanced Power (be it our products or others) and you will never regret it.
Thanks,
Mark
PS - Thanks to klh007 for giving me a call to alert me to this thread again... :) |
I gave Mark a call today to let him know that he needs to follow this thread. Both CPT & EP are so busy making & shipping product, there can be a short delay in a response, but Mark will respond. Check my earlier post for a brief take on how the E=Q cords work. CPT now has 1800 W and 1200W cords ready to go for those of you who wanted more current draw. You can use a WW Matrix AC outlet strip to allow for 6 AC cords to be plugged into one E=Q cord, your entire front end, and if you are using an efficient Class D amp ( EP 100.2SE, W4S, Red Dragon) perhaps the entire system. |
Hi corepowertech, can you elaborate on the construction and science behind your product? |
I will never buy HF. I am all for CPT and keeping my house and all. At some time there will be a test done between the HF $4000 cord and CPT's $600 cord. And I have my bets which one most would dive for....................Core Power Technology.. |
bacardi, the HFCs have thousands of magnets in them with each new series having many more. These are rare earth magnets and are expensive. Also assembly of these cords is labor intensive. I once asked Rick Schultz whether there was a point where there were demising returns in terms of magnets. He said no, but that manufacturing and cost were limiting factors. Probably he is there with the new Pro series and fortunately it is hard for me to believe that more could be better. |
@tbg, My brother did very well in Brisbane and unfortunately passed away three years ago. I would have gone there to see how things are on the other side of the world but his passing changed that idea. Anyhow, all of us have budgets and the price of the HF can't be grasped. Guys are re-mortgaging they're houses for some of these cords which is outrageous. There is a limit to things in life and everyone sets that themselves(or they're wives do-lol).
I presently just added another CPT 150 onto my dual mono amplifier and it is stunning. My soundstage is bigger, more isolation of the instruments-singer-band members, more focus. It has only had 15 hours and it is getting better. I did notice volume seems to be louder than it was with previous cord........stunning........
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bacardi, if your brother is in Sydney, he did well. It is a totally humane city. I would move there in a flash were I to not have a wife, kids, and grandkids in the USA.
Also if you think HFC's Ultra are expensive check out the Pros. Are they worth their price? I really cannot say, but I'm trying to keep them. Each night I sit there in awe. It is also partially their new MC 0.5 Magnetic Wave Guides as well as other things. I can just imagine what it would cost to have these in Australia.
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Greetings All,
I just had a nice phone call from someone on this thread that mentioned that some folks are having trouble contacting me.
My e-mail address as stated earlier in this thread is as follows
corepowertech@outlook.com
I’m not sure what the problems are - but I also have a telephone number - that number is 720.317.9141
I’m terribly sorry for any troubles - but I’m here and always willing to help.
Thank you,
Mark
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I would love to try one but the people involved won't answer my emails..have emailed on 2 occasions in the last week.. |
@tbg, I'd like too but I am rather far from you but I hear Houston is a really nice city. My brother almost went to work there as a purchaser but went to Australia instead.....
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@tbg, I think that's a fantastic idea for you to test and review a CPT 150 or 300 power cord so you know first hand how good they really are. And at 1/8 the price of a high fidelity Ultimate I can bet you would be really stunned.... |
@ romazicon: Another approach to get rid of the hum and getting great power conditioning is to have your electrician install a big isolation transformer (that can easily provide a much higher current than the Son of Q) between the AC panel and your wall outlet. I have always used the adept response series and have now my aR6-TSSOX behind an isolation trafo (installed in the crawl space, way out of sight).
Best of both worlds for just a grand more (parts+labor).
As you see on my systems page, I have been into HFC for a while. Magnets can be addictive! |
audiolabyrinth, I actually hate to review power cords. One has to spend much time letting them settle down or breakin and certainly one never wants to make the judgment that A is better than B, as it is really only my opinion, B is going to be mad, and with other equipment may reverse my judgment. I view reviews as my personal experiences, which may not be shared by others. |
I see some of the long time audiogoner's posting here now that I know well, some of which I have read their professional review's, and I trust their ear's on some audio, @ tbg, I bet you could get the cpt company to send you some power cord's for review, and in trade, do an honest write good or bad, with comparison's to what you have there, since I'm familiar with some high fidelity power cord's sound, if this review indeed took place, I would encourage you to email me where to read it tbg, always a pleasure to read some of the review's you produce. |
bacardi, where are you? Please, if you are ever in Houston come on up. |
@knghifi, at that point in time yes, and many times B4, but like what I have said in the above, there is always a brand that does that something different and these CPT cords do everything way better and give me that "LIVE" sound. The end result is nothing I have heard thus far. And I still have three more to swap out.......I just wonder how far ones jaw can drop??????
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@tbg , I do like your story and the funny thing is I have trialed and used a lot of brands. Some that were very hard to fit in, some that were just awful, some that had more bells N' whistles and tweaks than your 007 Vanquish, but it was the companies that were simple, solid, well built and not pulled from a bulk roll of wire that stood out in my system. The one that makes you track the same song again to see if you played the rite cut as your jaw drops. That is the one that above all should stand out.
If you can find a company that has all the qualities your looking for, fits your budget, works in your system to the best that you have heard, then the synergy will be there. Those are the ones to leave in and enjoy..................
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bacardi OP567 posts05-04-2016 4:28pm@ozzy , These power cords are never coming out of my system and in fact I am grabbing a couple more over the next month. Ozzy, I know you like to mix and match and even swap out cables all the time but for me the CPT are keepers. The Real Deal!
Hey Rum, didn't you say the same about HiDiamond too? LOL! I'll try when they offer a high current version for BIG amps. |
@ozzy , These power cords are never coming out of my system and in fact I am grabbing a couple more over the next month. Ozzy, I know you like to mix and match and even swap out cables all the time but for me the CPT are keepers. The Real Deal!
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I have long been an audiophile and remember the first audiophile power cord I ever heard of, Duntech. I had to modify a power amp with an attached power cord so that I could use it. Now we are faced with countless pcs. I have probably tried thirty different ones from the first that cost an outrageous $100!
I am now trying the High Fidelity Cables Pros, that are so outrageously expensive that I hesitate to tell anyone. But damn they allow a sound stage that I never thought possible. What to say to those enjoying the CPT? Enjoy them. None of us will ever get to hear a full range of the pcs available. I do remember when I first got a PC from Siltech while I was using one from Radio Shack. The Radio Shack was clearly better and I returned the Siltech. About a year later I saw a new Siltech that looked just like the Radio Shack in construction.
I presently use High Fidelity power cords and have found the recent ones, not surprisingly better. I also find they don't sound at all like other power cords. So some of the differences of opinion maybe just tastes.
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Bacardi, No, I haven’t. The drawback to the CPT cables to me was the low gauge and low current it draws which limits it to low power sources. But, as you mentioned they will have a larger gauge version soon so I would be interested in trying it. Want to swap a set to audition? |
Hi bacardi, thankyou, I really would like to listen to the cpt power cord's, how many hrs do you have on your cpt cord's? , although I've experienced nordost Odin, taralab's Grandmaster, high- fidelity power cord's, etc... I'm opened minded to what's possible for less money, keep me posted on your impression's of the cpt power cord's, btw, for me to use such a power cord as the cpt, it would minimum have to handle 2,400 watts a channel! , that is what my modified krell 700cx amplifier does into 2 ohms load, cheers bacardi. |
@ozzy, Have you tried CPT. |
@audiolabyrinth, I've tried a lot of cables $5000 and down. Ive tried cables $2000 that were better than $4000 cables. I personally found that cables with technology tended to have more positive affects on my system. I don't believe that sub-par cables at $100/200/300 are going to get it done for me as I've been exposed to really good power cords. In my opinion, most power cords are preference just like speakers and once you find a quality cable matched up to ones system, that's the one you should keep.
Pricing on CPT Power cords are on the website. |
Bacardi, You must try one of the new Cerious Technologies Graphene Extremes. |
Bacardi, please answer my questions of price point of power cord's you used, and the cost of the cpt power cord's, thankyou. |
Hi worldwidewholesales, I totally agree with your post assessment, cheers |
@audiolabyrinth. Let's keep this mature and professional. Simply try a CPT cord. But hold your jaw, because it will fall......
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4orreal, I was hoping you would have a sinceable conversation, not the childish one you are initiating that should be ignored, you know nothing of what I own, and if you were mature enough, we could enjoy a reasonable conversation, lol! |
Hi,
I actually have tested $5000-$18000 power cords and in my
opinion the CPT cords will definitely NOT sound broken compared to any power
cord you test them against, regardless of that power cables price point. I would
put the CPT cord in my top 3 favorite power cords. Keeping in mind there is no
best but rather best your system and your ears. We have tested over 400
different cable models, not brands but models and truth be told there are a ton
of different cable flavors. For my system, after auditioning over 90 different
power cable models, I now play with 3 different power cords in my system and
the CPT cords are in my top 3 power cables of all time. Every time I added a
CPT cord to my reference system, the system had more resolution, more
information and more inner detail. The bass was much easier to locate in the
soundstage and the midrange sounded more like a SET midrange. The system became
more holographic. Usually there are trade-offs when you switch from cable to
cable but I have not found any trade-offs with the CPT power cords. They do
however take 150 hours to break in and the first 50 hours are a little painful.
It is interesting to hear
people say the word "best" because I have not heard best but rather
system matching in regard to cabling. I have heard bad cables that just never
opened up or cables that were thin sounding with a lack of bottom end and that
type of cable is not for me. We have seen approximately10 sets of HF cables
come in on trade, no power cables from HF and I thought the RCA cables sounded
good but they were not the best for the person that traded them in to my
company.
The one thing I find funny
is people coming on forums and saying they have not tried the product that the
original post was about but then that same person says they have heard a better
product. I also wonder why people equate spending huge funds on cables, to
making the cable sound much better. I have heard some pretty darn good
sounding sub $1000 cables and that is another reason I like the CPT cords, no
gouging from CPT.
We are an audio
distribution company in Canada and we like the CPT product so much that we
decided to distribute the CPT cords in Canada. My suggestion would be to try a
CPT cord against what you consider your favorite power cord because you might
just be shocked, as I was!
Cheers,
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Hi Bacardi, please forgive me, I was not trying to disrespect you or your thread, but rather ask you what price point in power cable's you have used, I know many cable's in the sub stupid money category that is state of the art by a few available brand's, of course I have not tried them all that is available, alot of them though, I believe your statement should say the price point of cable's rather than dis entire brand's because some you mentioned has two top model's that is remarkable to say the least and I've personally had the privilege of listening to them and compared them respectively to other best available power cord's, but hey, I would love to know more about the cpt power cord's and pricing, bacardi, Lord knows I do not agree with today's cable pricing, so if I can get there for less money, by all means, bring it. |
@audiolabyrinth: So you have those cables in your $500.00 JBL speaker system? The mere mention of the price of your cables means it sound better than a cable you have not heard? Ha...I sense "something" weird in your small thinking mind. If I have buy Tara Labs cables based on your input, you can count me out, Mr. Salesman.
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Hi Bacardi,
You are welcome! Like you, I am interested in reading from people who have tried the CPT's in their system or heard it, and can say something direct and meaningful about them.
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4orreal, I do have those 5 - 16 thousand dollar power cord's, and lol!, never listened to anything better on my budget system, all of $65, 000.00 budget system! |
@4orreal, Well respected..... |
@audiolabyrinth. Have you tried CPT? Try them and post what you've compared it to and its price point. If we don't hear from you, then you haven't tried them and we'll disregard your false statement if haven't already. You will be amazed within 24 hours....... |
audiolabyrinth,
Bacardi
talked about cables he has had in "his system" that he compared the CPT power cords to. Do you own the
$5,000.00 to $16,000.00 power cord's
that you mentioned in your low budget system? If so, have you compared the CPT's in "your system" to the
$5,000.00 to $16,000.00 power cord's? Cables are system dependent and the effect one hears in their system is subjective to say the least. Also, it is virtually and practically impossible to audition or a/b every cable on earth in one's system; and, please spare us your nonsense and constant shill on the Tara Labs cables.
Tara Labs is not the end of the road and never will.
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Bacardi, curious to know the price point you were spending on power cord's? I believe your statement of naming other brand's of cable's that was not as good as cpt power cord's was entirely premature, lol!, since I know of $5,000.00 to $16,000.00 power cord's that will make this cord sound, we'll, broken so to speak of. |
We have had a lot of initial success with our EQUI=CORE 300 and the WireWorld Matrix, and IEC inlet Power Bar. You can use up to 6 components (paying attention to max power) in this configuration.
Most folks are running these with their "front ends" - but we know of many systems running an E=C for their power amps or integrated amps.
Here to help -
corepowertech@outlook.com
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@romazicon, I really think you should give the CPT power cords a try now that you said you've tried the High fidelity. I haven't trialed them myself but heard about them. For price the HF are really really steep and at 1/3 to 1/4 of the price the CPT may just drop your jaw, as it did mine and many others.... |
I have not tried the Equi=Cores yet but I am a fan of balanced power over traditional line conditioning. My Son of Q balanced power supply by Equi=Tech easily outperformed my much more expensive Audience aR6-TSSOX line conditioner as far as noise floor and dynamics but also resolved my subwoofer hum, something my Audience couldn't touch. The Audience brought about some smoothness beyond what the Son of Q could provide but it wasn't enough to justify keeping both and so I sold my Audience. The CPT chords are a great value if you only need 1-2 chords but if you're interested in applying the benefit of balanced power to all of your gear, you might find better value in something like the Son of Q which has 8 receptacles and can drive up to 1500 watts. With something like the Son of Q, I have also found that I no longer need (or benefit from) many of the expensive mains cables I have on hand although I continue to use them because I have them (Audience AU24SE, Dynamic Designs Challenger AE15).
Even better than my balanced power setup, however, are the High Fidelity Cables products. I am new to this magnetic conduction technology and I stumbled upon these at AXPONA and am currently evaluating the MC6-Hemisphere line conditioner + CT-1 power chords. While more expensive, the difference is there. The noise floor is even quieter, the dynamic contrasts seem greater, the tonal density is just unreal but the most spectacular thing about it is the electrostatic-like speed and transparency my system has acquired. Compared to my balanced power supply, this is at a whole other level. |
I didn't use any power conditioning before I tried an Equi=Core 300 and Matrix outlet strip, now I understand the need for these products. My system has blacker, quieter backgrounds, more subtle detail, wider & deeper soundstaging, a more relaxed presentation and ease of listening, with no reduction of dynamic contrasts. The price is very reasonable and significantly less than most other similar devices.
As I understand it, the E=Q takes the 120V line and using only a specially designed transformer, splits it into 2, 60V halves of opposite phases, drains the noise off to ground, and reconnects the halves for a quiet 120V output. I probably have part of the explanation wrong, but that is the gist of how it works, no fancy circuitry, just solid engineering and transformer wizardry. Maybe Mark can add some more information. |
@donzi, do any of your components have any ground hum? Most preamps have that issue. If so put a CPT 150 on it. They are really dead quiet and Just stunning....you won't take it off... |
Many posters confuse the word symbol with the word cymbal. |
donzi-
the power cord (PC) can be elusive at times. Your best bet would be to experiment with it on all sources for the best decision. I do not believe there is a right or wrong here. You want the PC to bring out the best of any gear.
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Newbie question: If I were going to put only one power cord, where would it be? To amp, or preamp, or DAC? I would guess amp; and would imagine that each of them would benefit. I've just wondered this question, and thought this thread a great place to ask it. Anyone have experience with Paul Speltz's AntiCables? I have the speaker cables, and just added RCA interconnects, and am amazed at the increase of music for a pretty low price. I know they also have power cords, which are on my future radar. |
I will be selling the 1800 watt model in about 2 weeks. It is a full 15 amp power conditioner with 4 Hubbell duplex outlets (for 8 units). It will retail for $1599.00. Info is here: http://www.underwoodhifi.com/products/equicoreUnderwoodwally |
From talking to Mark from CPT, they are going to have a 600, 1200 and 1500 model within a month or so. |
Bacardi, It looks like the highest power cord available can handle only 300 watts. Is that correct? |
@lwin. I've had lots of conditioners but not the Equi=Techs. I believe once you eliminate all or most of dirt, noise, etc, things get real and your component shines it's colours. |
