John, I do agree the VD cables are more power, dynamic, and the presentation is more forward. However, can you elaborate on the comment regarding natural sounding instrumental colors and hues. Any specific examples you can cite.
On a side note. I decided to also include a couple other cables in the comparison. Namely the Oritek X-2 and Ridge Street Audio Poemia!!!. I tend to rotate these cables in and out of my system for variety purposes.
I'd also like to ask a question regarding shielding and noise. My understanding is that the Gabriel Gold Extremes are not shielded. Has anyome who used the cable had any issue with RFI or noise as a result of the lack of shielding. |
Clio09, it is hard for me to elaborate, as I'm not a professional reviewer, but I will try. To my ears, in my system, the cables/cords that I've owned from Stealth, Jade Audio and PAD present a more natural, realistic instrumental colors and hues, as I've mentioned above. By this I mean that instruments natural decay resonation seems to come through better. I've demo'd VD Revelation speaker cables, and I still own Revelation and Master power cords, so I'm not slamming VD, they do have their positive attributes, as I've already mentioned.
IMHO, the VD's dynamic sound is attributed to it's incredible speed of the attack on the note that's played, however, the decay of the note is truncated. I hear more natural decay of the notes resonating on the aforementioned Jade, Stealth and PAD cables. As I tried to explain it to a friend of mine, when using the VD cables, the pluck of a guitar string sounds clearer, however with the Stealth, Jade, PAD, I can better hear the wooden body of the guitar resonating as well.
To my ears, this is most notable with brass instruments, horns and even cymbals. The natural shimmer that I associate with live sound just sounds more realistic when the note is allowed to decay in it's own space. I don't know if this explaination helps you out or confuses you more. Again, it's not easy for me to put what I hear into words. Also, I do understand that others have different tastes. Some may call my preference for hearing natural decay resonation a 'euphonic coloration'. So be it. Just like the tube vs. SS debate, this issue will have it's own proponants.
Now I'm not trying to rile up the VD zealots, as I mention they do have many positive attributes. I even still own some, and I'm trying to find a proper place for them. Somewhere where they will deliver the added dynamic power, w/o losing the 3-D stage and natural decay that I prefer.
I note in a previous thread that you had a RSAD Z-der block on your preamp with a VD Master attached. I currently have a VD Revelation p/c going through a Z-der block into my preamp. It sounds better than the RSAD Alethias! Signature cord that I had on the preamp before the Revelation. I haven't tried the Stealth Dream here yet though.
FWIW, I used to own RSAD Poiema!!! and Poiema!! Signature interconnects and speaker cables. Very nice cables, though I don't own them anymore. I do still own a pair of RSAD Poiema!!! Signature power cords along with the one Alethias! Signature power cord (and many others).
Also, just to get back on topic, I did order a pair of Gabriel Revelation speaker cables today. I will report back some time in the future with my impressions.
Cheers,
John |
Thanks John, you've clarified things for me. I have a better idea of where you're coming from and I do agree with you on some of your points. The VD interconnects are a different animal in my system than then PCs. In fact I think I prefer the VD PCs more so than the interconnects at this point. The interconnects are great, but they do lack that live ambience which is something I notice in spades with RSAD Poemia!!!
BTW - since I now use a TVC I moved the Z-der block to the transport and use it with a Nite II PC. I have the Master on my DAC and am thinking of getting a Z-der block for it.
On another note. I received my Gold Extreme cables today and put them in the system. They replaced the RSAD Poemia!!! between my DAC and preamp. For the time being I'll let the VD Master stay between the preamp and amp. I am using VD Master speaker cables as well. I listened to a couple of CDs and had to turn down the volume. It wouldn't be fair to comment further at this point until the cables have settled in a bit and have a 100 hours or so on them. |
john-can't wait to hear your impressions of the gg's!
I have also had the rsad poiema!! (maybe there was a third '!'?) and found them to be neutral, detailed and quiet but a little sterile or cold and while accurate sort of boring in the end. of course, they were good enough for me to have two pairs and the pc's in my system before i moved on.....i had the same experience with argent pursang s's....i kind of remember thinking they both seemed wierd since they are silver based, but that's my memory of them.
osgorth-
i had a similar experience with the gg's and discovered that it was a grounding issue with the eichmann termination design. check to be sure that the grounding nubbin on the rim of the rca termination seats well against it's receptacle. my cary 306/200 and aes ae3 djh sig outputs both have receptacles that are too long for the eichmann's to ground properly. the oringinal silver gelco's that steve used didn't have that requirement....if that is the issue, i can steer you to where to get the gelco's anyway.
clio09-
the gg's are indeed not shielded. i haven't had any issue with rfi or other interference. i actually often find shielded cables...if they use a single lead with one end connected as a float for shielding...can act as antennaes and end up noisier. other types of shielding like the space dust and or metal beads (shunyata, sonoran audio) and other protective layering work better for me.
bobf-
are you also using the gg p/c's?
all-
enjoy the tunes!
best, art |
John, many thanks for your opinions, I hear you completely. Seems we share the same philosophy when it comes to live ambience. :)
Art, aha! Now that makes sense to me, I've heard some people have had issues with the Eichmanns but the thought never did occur to me. It was pretty crowded in the shop, I didn't get a good look at the back of the preamp, might not have fit snugly enough. I'll make sure to pay attention to this when I receive my own gear. Thanks! |
yeah, there are several issues with the eichmann's, but they sure sound good when you can use them properly...the other main issue being it's pretty difficult to solder onto the small pin and pot for the two leads and the ground pin is a little lacking in stability since it's so T-iny.... |
Hi Art,
Yes I am using an Extreme on my amp and a Revelation on my CDP.
If you like what the other cables Steve makes you will enjoy these.
They just add more to the overall formula that Steve designs and I have had many PC's but these work so very well.
I have the Revelation interconnect and my audiophool cousin came over with his Revelation true shotgun speaker cables(traveled over an hour to bring them).
Needless to say I am getting the Revelation speaker cables made to replace my Extremes.
I did have the Indra's as interconnects and MLT speaker cables before I found the GG cabling and in my system I prefer what I have now and I really did love the Indra's.
As we all know it is what works for each person and their tastes and systems.I think my cousin finally likes what Logans can do as he is a diehard Maggie fan :^).
My Best,Bob |
great, bob. thanks. i think i'll give them a ride....any reason for the extreme on power and revelation on source or did it just fall that way and stay put? i really like my mlt's and kept them in favor of the extremes, but it was closecloseclose and i stayed with the familiar. however, the idea of one cable throughout an entire system definitely has a core attraction to me. slow and steady, smell the coffee, enjoy the tunes and savor every step because you only get to it at that time once...well, i try anyway, but frenetic has a gravity all its own! might have to revisit the s/c's afterall. man, this is fun! best, art |
Well there are a 100+ hours on this cable right now. I am very pleased with the results so far. As others have said there is excellent layering and increased air. There is a natural feel to the music, especially with cymbals and vocals. At first the bass was a bit bloated and the imaging a little off, but these pieces have snapped into place over the last dew days.
Steve is a great guy to work with and at the auction prices the Extremes are a great deal. I haven't done any comparisons yet to other cables, but will do so over the next few weeks.
BTW - mine came with copper Eichmann plugs. Is this standard? I believe I like the copper version better than the silver. |
Having had both the silver and the copper Eichmann's, I can only say that I liked the copper better. I tend to veer a little to the warm in my tastes and, while neither sound harsh, the copper is just a little more musical and comfy to my ears.... |
Please specify which Gabriel Gold IC's you are using.
I have Revelations and even during the break-in process
the bass was excellent and imaging went from exellent to amazing. |
Bobf, I have the Gabriel Gold Extreme cables, not the Revelation. |
I have had the Gabriel Gold Extremes for a week now, replacing two pairs of the original Gabriel Golds. I have about 50 hours on them. Right out of the box the Extremes were better than the originals. The originals replaced Audio Magic Sorcerer IC's and the Gold's were in a league of their own. The Extremes were instant keepers, but I wanted to give them some time to burn as Steve told me they take about 40 hours to change and about 100 hours to fully break in. I was gone all day and let the rig play all day. When I came home, I was shocked how clear, clean, open, and detailed the music is. I can pick any instrument and follow every detail of the musician. Highs are extended. Bass is tight and not rolled off. Voice is crystal clean. These cables are exciting and engaging. I don't know how Steve does it. The Gabriel Gold Extremes let the music through period. Thanks Steve! |
Elsneb * your decription is right on the money.
It is scary how these cables do exactly that.They let every instrument take on it's true natural character and conveys and maintains this throughout the preformance no matter how complexed the recording.No component I've ever owned could even do this as well as these cables.What is really scary is how much more the Revelation can do this. |
Bobf*
Now you have me wanting the Revelation and I can't imagine how the sound can get any better. Knowing the difference between the originals and the Gabriel Gold Extremes, I believe you. Steve has found some magic here. |
Rumor has it that Steve is coming out with a new line, called 'Rapture'. Anyone else heard of this? Any details?
John |
I have heard that that the new AC cords are going to be called the Rapture.I can't imagine him making a better sounding IC than the Revelation,but then again I didn't think it could better than the Extreme. |
I just received two Revelation IC pairs from Steve. After listening for two hours and experimenting with different positions for these two cables in my system, the results are fairly astounding. I already had one length of Synergistic Research Tesla Accelerators which sounds very good. I am happy with them but I wanted to compare them to the GGs to see which I would stay with long term. My goal was to first see if I find some synergy with the one GG and the two SRs in the system at the same time, and if not, to go with a complete complement of ICs from just one of the manufacturers. I moved the cables around to every position and found nirvana in one particular configuration.
The configuration that works best in my system is with the GGs placed between the two sources (CDP and TT) and the preamp, and the SR placed between the preamp and amp. This configuration sounds unbelievably good. I'm astonished. This is exactly what I was looking for when I started thinking about recabling my system and leaving Nordost Red Dawns. The tone is amazingly beautiful and rich. The sound stage/image is just perfect. Instruments are the correct size (pianos take up much more space in the sound stage, cymbals are more pin-point). The sound coming from my speakers is perfectly nuanced and sounds just a little bit "sweet". It wasn't warmth per se, but sweetness. I have experienced a feeling like this once before when I heard my first Conrad Johnson tube preamp. It struck me immediately as sounding "sweet". I am 100% happy with this set up.
Placing the GG between the preamp and the amp, and placing the SR between the source and pre sounded good, but not great. The tone is good, but the image is just a little incoherent.
This next configuration surprised me the most of all. Placing two GGs between the source and preamp, and also between the preamp and amp sounded the least appealing of any configuration. The image just was not very coherent, so it sounded like the instruments were tripping over one another and invading each other's space. This could be attributed to the fact that these cables have not burned in for any length of time yet. Also, I use a passive preamp, and the system just may not be happy with two GGs on either side of this preamp. I did notice that I had to definitely turn the preamp's volume knob up another 30-35 degrees to get the same volume level in this configuration. It is obvious to me that these are incredible cables and I do not think that the result of my system's sound in this configuration should be passed off on the cables.
I would describe these cables by saying that having a phenomenally rich tone is one of their properties. YoYo Ma's cello has that full cello sound which I had been hoping to get. Pianos sound like the big, beautiful instruments that they are. I can still hear the little details from the audience in live recordings that I like to hear (I could hear the cash register at the bar on my "Miles Davis - Live at the Plugged Nickel" LP, lol). Both the bass and top end are both equally represented with correct emphasis and excellent detail. These cables are a great bargain and I couldn't be happier with them.
I would contrast these GGs to the SR Tesla Accelerators by saying that by themselves, the sound stage produced by the SRs is more 3 dimensional than the GG, but the GG's tone is much richer than that of the SR. Both have very good extension in the upper and lower frequency ranges. Granted, the GGs have not burned in yet. If their properties change significantly in the next few hundred hours of listening, then I will update that event here.
Well, I found what I was looking for when I started my cable search a few months ago. I wanted to round out my system and I've definitely reached my goal. Thanks for all the posts here, they really helped. I want to say that Steve is the nicest business owner I have ever met in this industry. I have met other extremely mannerly and accommodating individuals in this industry (Paul at PS Audio, Bill at Circle Stereo in Austin), but Steve takes the cake for graciousness and service. I hope he does very well with his product in the future; I don't see how he cannot. |
Great follow up, geojap! I would say let them burn in and retry them in sequence in your system. I have always called the source to pre site 'the driver's seat' for i/c's. that position definitely has the most influence. that being said, i agree wholeheartedly with your assessment (n.b. i have the extemes and not the revelations) that the tonality, pace and detail of the gg's can't be beat and that their soundstaging is great but not their best attribute. i have heard deeper soundstages, but none with better imaging,,,,so, put 'em in and let 'em go for a few days and let us know what you find!
i have tried steve's product on ss and tubes and between sources (cary 306/200, squeezebox 3, ft-101a etude tuner), preamps (aes djh, ayre k3x,and cary slp98), phono stages (modded aes ph-1...why did i let that one go!, plinius jarrah, musical fidelity xcan3) and amps (plinius only sa201, p8). they have been surprisingly un-fickle as to brand or configuration. this is counter to all my previous experience, but sort of intuitive if you have a predisposition (proclivity?) to believing best is best and DAMNIT things shouldn't always depend on 'synergy' and catching lightning in a bottle! ah, but i start to rant and digress.....sort of.
his cables have permanently replaced all others for me in all position, but i have never had a passive pre. really look forward to you follow up after break-in....i might have to trade up to the revelation myself! |
geojap???? if you don't have many hours on the GG's then you are NOT making an accurate assessment.
The GG's are really going to shake you up once they break-in.You watch !!!! |
Yep, I am fully expecting the sound to evolve over the next few weeks, as would be expected. I was so astounded by what I heard that I figured I would go ahead and write it out. I'll move the cables around a bit in a couple of weeks to see what happens. But honestly, I will be surprised if my system with this same hardware ever sounds better than it does right now. It's just incredible. The sound stage, imaging, tone, detail, and frequency extension are all perfect. I've never heard anything like it. I'm 110% satisfied and I would unreservedly recommend the GGs. I was considering upgrading my crossover and all kinds of other things, but I need to rethink that now to see if it is even necessary. |
Geojap,
Thought you should know that the GG are indead the real thing but only after 100 hours. Any concerns you may have during the break in period are eliminated once the cable is broken in. My first Revelation GG changed after the 45th hour. My second Revation changed after the 47th hour.
On track 7 "Psalme" (Global House cd) the thunder bolt strike and subsequent Bass guitar on this track tells the GG story. Its fast dynamic and has a temporal rythm that makes everything soung 'entertaining' to listen to. These cables have an inner beauty to them.
Enjoy
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**Correction** "Thundernight" #6 is the correct track I tested on the Global House cd.
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I have had the Gabriel Gold Extremes in my rig for two weeks and the music is incredible. Piano notes are like standing beside the piano, hearing the notes being struck, crisp and clean. Bass is tight and mids to die for. I have no idea what the Revelation brings to the equation, but the Extremes are great cables. |
Elsneb,
I am almost sure that there is more of the same than there are differences between the Extremes and the Revelation. If there is anyone who has done the comparison your are welcome to chime in.
I will say in my system before the break in period started (40 hours plus) there is a "soft" but natural character with the upper frequencies on the Revelatons. Somewhat laid back mids, with no artificial gushing of the bass but still very nice sound.
Then pass the 46th hour the cable takes on the character that others have reported on these pages prompting the response, "its a keeper".
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hey guys, bobf has had both the extremes and the revelation (see above...way above). he seems to think the difference is not terribly subtle, but i think la45 is right, more similarities than differences. i will hopefully be able to answer this question myself before too long..... |
Good thread. I'm interested in hearing some opinions on the Gabriel speaker cables. Anyone using them? |
I purchased the Revelation IC and placed it from the CD player to the preamp, for me this worked the best, when I first connected this cable it was never to bright on the highs but I felt the midrange was a little muddy (if this is the proper term)but it was very clear. after about 50 hour a change started the midrange took shape the Bass was tight, voices are crystal clear, the music through these cables once broken in are detailed, exciting and the imaging is amazing, these are the most musical cables I have had in my system to date.
I two am interested in any opinions or feed back on the Gabriel speaker cables. Anyone using them?
Jeff |
I was using the Stealth MLT speaker wire with the 2 Stealth Indra's before I discovered the Gabriel Gold cables a few years back.I first switched out 1 pair of Indra for a pair of the Extremes and heard a marked improvement in tonality,depth,layering and detail.The bass is rock solid.Shortly after I added a second pair of Extremes which improved the sound beyond any of my expectations.Once GG speaker wire became available I added a shotgun bi-wire set of ExtremeS and sold my MLT's.
The speaker wire added more and more realism to the system to the point it was actually scary that electronics could do this.Images were crawling across the top of my ceiling steering from left to right and back and forth with effortless musicallity and solidity.If you own these cables you know what I mean.It is hard to explain because I have never heard anything like this before.
After about a year I saw that there was now a version available called the Revelation and to my astoundment they are just that.I actually did not believe that my system could sound any better and I was somewhat apprehensive about switching out the Extreme for the Revelation,however after a couple of Demeola tracks I immediately new I had to.I have also upgraded my Extreme speaker wire to the Revelation wire and again WOW!.
If the Extreme was the only line available I would say it is the best cable out there.With the Revelation cables I would say this they are without a doubt a true Revelation.
Oh! I didn't even mention the GG AC cords.I guess that's for another time.I am certainly happy that I started this thread and that other members have now gotten the opportunity to hear what these amazing cables can do for music lovers |
bobf I know what you mean about not being able to explain what the Golds do.How can speakers magically make the musicians invisible in your room.No one would ever believe you. But we know they are there don't we !!!!!! |
Bobf, it's good to hear your opinions! :)
I for one would be very interested to hear about the GG power chords, particularly since I'm looking for new chords.. |
It was asked earlier in this thread if the wire in the Gabriels was the same wire that Audio Metallurgy uses in their cables. Someone posted it was not the same.
I wonder how the poster knows this to be a fact. Just curious.
I have tried the Audio Metallurgy GA-0's and have found them to be exceptional. I have also noticed that numerous other cable manufacturers are now using the "gold alloy" wire in their cable designs. It seems that the gold alloy wire is not proprietary and apparently it is available if one knows where to buy it.
It could be that the results that this wire is producing says more about the wire than the cable design. The GA-0's have produced the same enormous soundstage, clarity, imaging and tonality in my system that others have described here with the Gabriels.
Having said that, I want to order a pair of the "Revelations" and compare them to the Audio Metallugy GA-0's. If the Gabriels are that much better I will be shocked -- but elated. |
There is a member that sells Gold Alloy Wire here on Audiogon in bulk by the foot. |
Bobf just just made a comment to the effect that "it was actually scary that electronics could do this." That was one of my immediate impressions with the GG Revelations. I never knew that my amp and CD player could sound this good (I knew my speakers should be able to, though). In a way, it has given me a sense of the limititations of my gear, as I am assuming that I am now hearing the upper limit of my CDP and amp's capabilities. They sound great, but I now have food for thought regarding any upgrading that I will do to those two components, as I believe that I have found the true character of those components. I think I have definitely found my "reference component" in the GG cables. |
Regarding gold alloys.They are not all the same.
If one is willing to invest a great deal of money and has some experience as a metallurgist a wire manuafacturer will build wire for you.Percentages of Gold,Silver and Copper can vary along with the purity of the materials.If you are willing to pay it can be provided.
You can even have platinum wire made if you want to pay for it.
And let us not forget the Cryo process which also can vary.Once one has the wire the design then plays the major role.
For instance as member fiddler asked in regard to Audio Metallury.It is my understanding that the AM cables use a 20 gauge gold alloy with (2)conductors in their RCA design.
I have heard very good things about the AM cable.
The Gabriel Gold Revelations use different gauges of Gold alloy in their design and also use (3) conductors in their RCA cable.
The rest of the design is also totally different from one manufacturer to the other.Both companies are achieving great sonic results with what they do.To think that there is one Gold alloy out there and only one factory in the world can make it and that every cable that uses a gold alloy has a similar sound is just not a fair or accurate assessment.
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I've got a Revelation AC cord and one of the earlier Extreme cords .I talked to Steve recently and asked him why the Revelation cord was pulled from the product list in the ads.I was told that The Revelation AC Cord could still be made but it is now only a special order item.I guess he 'll build one for someone who needs another or if someone has heard it and wants one.Apparently he is coming out with a new AC Cord soon called the Rapture.The Revelation and Extreme cords are a tall order to match,but based on everything I have heard over the last few years I'm sure it will be awesome. |
"If one is willing to invest a great deal of money and has some experience as a metallurgist a wire manuafacturer will build wire for you.Percentages of Gold,Silver and Copper can vary along with the purity of the materials.If you are willing to pay it can be provided.
Audiobuzz, you made my point precisely!
The cable business seems to be divided between the "big boys" and the "small fries". The big boys certainly have the money to have any wire they want made to their specifications. However, I seriously doubt that all of the small fries in the cottage industry we are discussing here have their own wire made to their specifications. Just a guess, but I suspect a good one.
The Audio Metallurgy design is a simple design and I suspect that the Gabriels are also. That is not a knock on either of them, but rather a plus. I personally believe that's one reason their cables sound so good. But if you read other websites it seems that alloy cables are getting stellar reviews from numerous manufacturers. "Alloy" wire seems to incorporate the best of each metal and apparently the combination of metals create a synergy above and beyond the strengths of the singular metals.
You don't need to defend Gabriel cables here. No one is attacking Steve's products. I want to try them myself! All I am saying is that it is my opinion that the "alloy" wire is a big part of the "small fry" victories.
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WOW! I hope the people at Audio Metallurgy and Steve don't mind being called "small fries"
I hear both of them have some deep pockets. |
Darealjaydee,
Audio Metallurgy and Steve may have pockets as deep as Bill Gates, but they don't sell a drop in the bucket in cables as compared to Monster, MIT, Transparent, Nordost, etc. They *are* small fries in the cable world. But that has nothing to do with the quality of their cables. And I know from experience how good AM cables are and I suspect Steve's cables are as good or better.
If the AM folks and Steve have pockets as deep as you suggest, then they are probably smart business people, as well. I am sure they clearly understand the economies of scale and invest money in their companies based on those principles.
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WOW! I hope the people at Audio Metallurgy and Steve don't mind being called "small fries"
I hear both of them have some deep pockets. This is purely a objective, academic discussion, no need for consideration of egos or tip-toeing around semantics, I think. The term was used merely to provide a relative reference or point of contrast from which the author could begin to make his point. I too have wondered about the economics behind such a small operation that produces such a great product. Contrasting the excellent GGs or AMs against bigger companies' (possibly inferior) product is intuitively interesting and one obviously inquires, "How can this be?" I did research all the bigger cable companies' product before I bought the GGs. They all seemed to have several obvious weaknesses or trade-offs and the GGs did not, which is why I took the leap of faith with GGs. I was not disappointed, even though my standards and expectations were set very high. |
Geojap I definately see your point.
I guess my point is/was that just because you are a small company it doesn't mean that you go out there and build your products with inferior parts or wire.
I believe the opposite.
You don't have to buy 100000 feet of wire from a manufacturer to get custom wire you can buy 10000 feet.You just pay more for it.I know the GG product is world class in design,sonics and appearance and I am sure the AM is right up there too!
and besides come to think of it I am partial to fries over baked potatoes when it comes right down to it anyway |
"we don't need another hero"! ok, so it's a bad song....
i think any and all of us would just plain buy the best cable they can find for their system as long as they could afford it. big baked potato guy or small fry guy. best is best. and that's what we all want. that and as much as we can get for free!
the gg's have bested all cables i have tried including some pretty seriouis mega buck big potato guys like siltech ftm4sg, stealth metacarbon and analysis plus golden ovals. but, hearing is believing and if you haven't heard them, speculation is just that and has no really value....a doily twisting in the wind.....a modern day antimacassar oil salesman...
prior to owning the gg's i believed that finding synergy was like catching lightning in a bottle. all luck and keep on trying. each position in a system requiring its own lightning. but, now i still believe that different positions carry more impact on a system's sound but all of those positions sound best with the same cable....and that's the gabriel golds. weird, but true. my opinion, but i don't think i am alone here.
i still use the stealth mlt s/c's....sort of a long run and so pretty expensive, but if i could come up with the dough, i would absolutely throw it at a pair of revelations. i also use a variety of p/c's. lightning in a bottle still. i do think a system fully wired with one cable is conceptually attractive....maybe a one brand equipment and one cable system....but that means you still think synergy is king. i now think best is best.
so, who cares how many feet of wire costs how much and what the percentage and purity of the different metals are?! the sound of the gg's is absolutely astounding. come on in, water's warm. enjoy the tunes! |
the gg's have bested all cables i have tried including some pretty seriouis mega buck big potato guys like siltech ftm4sg, stealth metacarbon and analysis plus golden ovals. but, hearing is believing and if you haven't heard them, speculation is just that and has no really value....a doily twisting in the wind.....a modern day antimacassar oil salesman...
now i still believe that different positions carry more impact on a system's sound but all of those positions sound best with the same cable....and that's the gabriel golds. weird, but true. my opinion, but i don't think i am alone here.
Budburma, your statement is very true. I have found that other cables get in the way of the music. The GG let the music flow, no coloration, no brightnes, just music. The best sound is all GG cables on the componets, no mixing of cables here. Steve has been a class act all the way, that makes him "Big" in my book. I have known a few "Big Fry" dealers who have forgotten that it is about the music. |
Well I just bit the bullet and bought the GG Revelation RCAs from Steve to go with my GG Extreme RCAs. My plan is to run the Revelation from DAC to preamp and the Extreme from preamp to amp. It will be interesting to hear how this sounds. |
I'm going to have a Revelation vs Revelation shoot-out at the OK Corral. I'm currently using balanced Virtual Dynamics (version 1) ICs and Steve has just sent out a pair of balanced Gabriel Revelation ICs. I have tried the GGs and liked them. We'll see what happens! |
Sounds like an intersting shoot-out.
Two great cables(big pice difference though)
Once the cables break-in and you do your comparison I will be very interested in your opinion. |
Clio09,
Any first impressions to share with us?
Luis
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La45, not yet Steve should be shipping mine today or tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to post something late next week after they settle in for 100 hours or so. |
Put in my new Gabriel Revelations last night. Right out of the box, just a hair closed in and bass, while there, was a bit fuzzy. These are just preliminary impressions that don't really mean much at this point, just thought I'd report. I have owned the Gabriel Golds and liked them a lot but I've been using Virtual Dynamics Revelation v1 with great satisfaction for about a year now. All the cables mentioned were balanced. I'll try to get back to this thread after the Gabriels get more time, maybe a week or two.
BTW: I really enjoyed dealing with Steve B. |
rja-I have been following this thread and partipating as you have, and I don't get the "fuzzy" comment.
It is though the first of it's kind in this thread.
Even new out of the box I have not read such a description yet.
All of my GG's and other members have commented that the cable sounds great out of the box and just gets better(150 break-in time).You may want to let them break -in a bit and see if the sound changes as it should and then repost your findings.
These cables seem to have great synergy in all of the systems I have heard they were installed in. |
