Found A Roon Core Streamer Only Solution with Top Notch Sound Quality


I bought a "poor man's" clone of a Nuclues Plus Roon Server from fellow member located in Poland.  See https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisbcb0a-roon-labs-poor-man-s-nucleus-music-servers-docks

The seller is super knowledgeable. The whole transaction was flawless. 

The sound is exactly what I was looking for. I recently have a Lumin T3 in house ($5k product) and liked the higher quality streaming. The DAC in the Lumin is really great too, but I prefer my external LTA Aero (NOS, ladder).  What's more, $5k feels steep for the Lumin given its wonky software and weirdly cheap dot matrix screen. 

So I've been on the lookout and researching standalone streamers. 

Adam's Nucleus Plus clone is actually higher spec'd than Roon's model. 

The unit looks even better in person. It's discrete. Solidly built. DEAD quiet (no fan). 

I have no affiliation with Adam other than being a first time, happy purchaser of the "poor pan's Nucleus Plus."  

If you are in the market for dedicated streamer that is also a dedicate Roon Core, check this product out.  Highly recommended. 

PS I'm going to put a linear power supply on it next to see what will happen. 

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Looks like a good product.  I ran Roon ROCK on my onw I7 NUC for years and was happy although it is not fanless, I had it acousticly pretty much isolated.  Still I would have preferred fanless.  All that said, a fast cpu isn't really needed for the core as it is processing  mostly in the background.  but it never hurts to have more cpu, more memory, and more ssd.  

I have moved to a Grimm and use the on-board core which is excellent.   At one time I had the Innuos Zenith MK3 and the onboard core was poor.  I felt like they purposely did a poor implementation of roon so that their Sense app sounded better.  

I am a bit surprised you are using it as a streamer as well.  I always placed my core on the network with a seperate high quality streamer.  The Grimm incorporates them into one box but they are still seperate components.

If I was still running my NUC I would jump on one of these for this price.

Jerry

Awesome find with a great price. If I was in the market I would definitely give this a try. Appreciate the share @jbhiller!

I was looking at streamer only solutions and some of the pricing was eye popping, yet there are some highly reviewed and/respect items out there too in the $800-$1500 range. 

What pushed me to get this Nucleus Plus clone was the fact that I could take the Roon Core server off my iMac and back to a dedicated device. I had a NUC a few years back that I built. Its performance was stellar but I ultimately wiped the drive and sold it because it just didn't play consistently well on my network.  Xfinity's network app has some deeper features and I'd check them to find out the NUC would fall off the network all the time. I tried to set it up with a fixed network address too--to no avail. 

At any rate, I think the Nucleus + clone sounds even better than the Lumin when using an external dac.

Highly recommended. Plus, the clone has stayed solidly on my network since install.  Next up is a linear power supply upgrade. 

This machine looks awesome! Congrats! I like that it’s fanless, good parts. definitely get LPS power supply and a good USB cable. 
 

I doubt it.

At one time I had the Innuos Zenith MK3 and the onboard core was poor.  I felt like they purposely did a poor implementation of roon so that their Sense app sounded better.  

@jbhiller Easy to see superiority of that build to off the shelf version. I used to build custom streamers based on Mac Mini's, each more sophisticated than previous builds. Now using custom build based on ATX/Windows motherboard running Euphony operating system,  JCAT ATX LPS, .  Based on my experience adding a quality LPS will be well worth it.

 

I leaned about diy custom builds, research via audiophilestyle.com forum. In face offs custom builds often surpass many of the well known off the shelf streamers, custom builds reach as far as the Taiko clones.

 

Not surprising another report of Sense app superior to Roon with Innuos. Innuos design philosophy dictates music player app that requires less processor resources than Roon. Roon with all it's features is a relatively heavy user of processor resources, working a processor hard means more self generated noise on motherboards, Roon works best with low latency steamer designs.

@sns, I respect your opinions because you have a good background knowledge in the implementation of this stuff. We consulted on modifying my Chinook. You were a gentleman and very right in your views—based on what my ears heard.  

@jbhiller thanks for sharing.

I purchased a streamer/DAC so need a room core connected elsewhere on my network.

originally, I started with a Terminator DAC and then purchased an Mscaler and Zenith mk3 for a future DAC upgrade.  But I got a fantastic deal on an end-game streamer/DAC and the innuos does not play well with roon.  

@kennyc  You’re welcome. I felt compelled to share this because the cost of really good quality streaming can be popping. But I can’t hear the difference. I just think $5000 a streamer is a little insane.
 

the unit is still running and is totally stable on my network