Proac Studio 140s, you will be stunned. If I can assist let me know. |
IMO if your into loud rock get an older pair of JBLs,Altecs,Klipsch..all the named are really only good for that..loud kickin rock..when and if you mellow like I did you can move into speakers that offer other qualifications |
I second the CF series by Klipsch, I had the CF 4s and they were ridiculous in both size and sheer output. 102 dB sensitivity. 2 12" poly-graphite drivers with horn in a D'appolito array. They sounded quite good in fact I kind of miss them. If you are looking for big, easy to drive, and LOUD... look no further. |
Look into line arrays. Selah Audio has a new one - the "Symmetrica" that's fairly inexpensive and will be a very easy load. My Selah arrays have great dynamics and expansive soundfield for live rock recordings. |
To Dr. Joe's list above, I'll add the Altec Model 14 (little brother of the superb Model 19), and the JBL model 4430 studio monitor.
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Fish,
I was just implying (and I should have stated this specifically) that the brightness is not likely "caused by" the Hyperion speakers. I'm not saying your electronics/cables are no good but it may be that they are the root cause of any brightness or forwardness.
The reason I really like the Hyperions - the reason I bought another pair after selling the first 18+ months ago - is that they're always pleasant to listen to!! Fault them if you will, but their kingly trait to me is just that they always sound - at least - good, and usually very, very good.
I'm not saying they pretty up bad material - I avoid bad material - but just that I have many recordings that do sound uncomfortably forward on other speakers, but not these.
The electronics are a Wavelength Cosecant DAC (also have other NOS/filterless DACs), a Shindo Monbrison pre, and the aforementioned 211 SET monoblocks. An ICE amp on the speakers did definitely bring out a bit more forwardness.
I also don't toe them in at all - they fire straight out - and that undoubtedly affects the tonal balance (this is how they're typically demoed...).
I think you can find plenty of speakers for less or equal money that are as easy to drive and dynamic, but all of these will not be nearly as full-range and not have the same accuracy of timbre. In my humble opinion and experience.
Good luck.. |
You would probably love the Klipsch Epic CF-3, or any of the Epic series but they are hard to find.
These were Klipsh's attempt at attacking the high end market. Everyone loved them except the legacy Klipsch community, so they had a relatively short production run.
The CF3s are monsters, about 100db efficient and absolutely rock. However, they are the most refined and sweet speaker Klipsch ever made. In fact, rumor has it Klipsch's lead designer still uses CF3s today- yes over khorns.
If you stumble upon an Epic series speaker give it a listen. |
Paul I don't believe I have mentioned it before but regardless I do find the speakers very impressive, I do enjoy them but maybe they are a little too forward for my tastes. Regardless, I am not sure there is a suitable replacement that will be as easy to drive & as dynamic for the same money. |
Fish,
I think you may have posted on this 'brightness' once before. Honestly, that's way weird to me. I also have a pair of Hyp 938s - the second pair I've owned - and they're just anything but. The are extremely smooth and the treble is NEVER harsh or forward. I have six pairs of speakers in the house now, all highly regarded, and the 938s are the 2nd-cheapest of the bunch. I won't say they're the best, or that they have no weaknesses, but they ARE the ones that NEVER sound bright!
I drive them with 16W 211 SET amps which do a superb job. |
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I had Vandy 2cis and 3Asigs. Great speakers, but not rockers. |
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Fishwater, if your are anywhere near L.A., there is a pair of Snell B-Minors for sale here on audiogon for $1000, pick-up only. These are known great rock'n'roll speakers. I have a pair. You can't go wrong. This is a steal for someone, whatever type of music you listen to. |
Fishwater,
I think Stereo may have been referring to the newer Tyler PD line which uses a large Pro woofer and a horn tweeter. I haven't heard them, but it would seem that they would rock pretty good.
Enjoy,
TIC |
I used to have a set of Tyler Ref 1's with matching sub, sounded awesome but never had the impact I was looking for. If I had the money I would move up the line but I need to stay under $2,000. I think for me what I have found is larger drivers tend to have the impact I am looking for. The last thing I want is "polite" or "laid back" speakers. I am not a bass fiend or I would go back to solid state but I definitely want as close to a live concert experience as possible in my playback. |
play with room placement...any speaker can sound too bright if not set up in the right place. |
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There's a number of easy answers to your question (in no particular order):
Altec Model 19
Altec 604-8K
Tannoy System 15 DMT II
All are high sensitivity (95+ dB) with easy impedance curves.
I use the latter two. I prefer low- or zero-feedback MOSFET amps, but they'll work with most anything from 300B and up (powerwise).
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Joel. |
Check out older Acarian Alon or the newer NOLAs, or Vandersteens. Sounds like what you're after. |
