Tonywinsc,
I hear you. Some of my cheapest tweaks have been the most rewarding. I also help friends upgrade and finding good deals for someone else is plenty of fun. |
czarievy, So if millionaires aren't buying 10k power conditioners than who is? |
Perhaps those obsessive enough to buy $50 fuses would buy $10k Power Conditioners if they had the means. |
A 50.00 fuse is a long way from a 10k power conditioner. |
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It was a tongue in cheek comment. Would a person willing to spend 1000x the normal price for a fuse be the sort of person to spend $10k on a power conditioner- if they had the means?
My point is, wealth doesn't automatically correlate to having an expensive hifi. It's a hobby that draws those interested in music and the reproduction of music. Some of us will use all means at our disposal to get to the next level. |
As much as I like audio I'm not going to spend 10k on power conditioning. I've bought pre-owned power conditioners off Audiogon in the past and sold them within a month. I really think that someone that has 10k to buy a power conditioner has money to burn. |
I find all this "how dare they" froth about an expensive power conditioner odd in a world filled with $50k amplifiers and $90k speakers. When you haven't ever heard an expensive power conditioner in your own system and when you don't understand what they do, it's kind of hard to judge its value or lack thereof.
I know one thing; my $5k power conditioner is nearly equal to my $8500 amplifier in what it delivers..because they are *both* very good at handling the electricity that is vital to the reproduction of all recorded sound. Electricity and its proper delivery are fundamentally important if one wants to achieve more life-like sound reproduction. A good power conditioner aids and improves that delivery. Anyone can hear it if given the chance. Exactly how much that improvement is "worth" is up to each individual and cannot be empirically established by debate. |
Hi Vhiner, I hope my reply didn't come across like that. Everyone has a hobby and interests. How much one commits of their resources to that hobby, be it 1% or 100%, is a personal decision. The only relavance cost has for a component is that it is an obstacle to be overcome in acheiving one's goals.
It shouldn't matter if a person spends $1k or $100k on a hifi. This community should respect the accomplishment made towards the goal of reproducing sound faithfully and accuratly. We should not judge on cost. Now, if a person spends $100k on a hifi just to listen to Country music, then they should be ridiculed to the point of exhaustion. (Just kidding. :0) Some of my best friends like Country music). |
Tony,
In no way, did I think you and I are in any disagreement. I was reacting to
the comments by others that seem to obsessively focus on cost as a
measure of value and common sense. Sorry about the confusion. |
Taters,
I certainly have no interest in convincing you to buy anything but you posted a question that implies others *shouldn't* buy such things or that something is wrong with them if they do. And you seem intent upon persuading others to adopt your point of view.
That's your right but it seems odd to be so concerned with the choices others make. You'll notice that no one here is calling your choice *not* to use a power conditioner misguided. No one is implying that you are too deaf to hear the difference. Why not refrain from judging the choices of others? I say "live and let live." |
Taters, I'd say perhaps their foolish children, but not them. If I were salesman I'd certainly look for early 20's child and brainwash. It's much easier than same to 60 year old established millionaire. |
Vhiner, If you want to drop 10k on a power conditioner knock yourself out. |
>>As much as I like audio I'm not going to spend 10k on power conditioning
Sure, you in your current situation.
A couple years ago, I could not even image to spend a couple grand for a power cord and here I am.
If you can not hear the difference, then do not buy it but let others behave what they like, not what you like us / them to be.
Power conditioning, unlike an amp or CDP or anything more visible, does not sell for its glitter but for its functionality. |
10-08-13: Taters
I really think that someone that has 10k to buy a power conditioner has money to burn. One could also say that someone who can spend as much time thinking about this topic has plenty of time to burn. |
And the Oscar for best comeback goes to Jmcgrogan2 :-) |
Jmcgrogan2, Thinking and doing are two separate things. |
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We all have limited time to burn. Just gotta get ones priorities in order to know how to best spend it. |
10-10-13: Taters
Jmcgrogan2, Thinking and doing are two separate things.
Well then, maybe if you stop thinking and start doing you will have money to burn too. ;) |
Jmcgrogan2,
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Thanks for putting a cap on this. Now, back to music!! |
anytime a question begins with "does anyone need....." it is a rhetorical question. there is no definitive answer to such a question |
Polls are showing 70% + of people want everyone in congress tossed out these days, except their own congressperson, 40% still like them. Same true about their lawyers. Prime candidates for 10K power conditioners as well, maybe? :^) |
