Differences in clock cables?


I am wondering if anyone has done any testing, experimenting with different clock cables? Have you found any significant change? I currently have a pair of Oyaide 510 cables which are very nice silver cables.. Most of my interconnect is Wireworld so would getting some Gold Starlight 10's be an improvement or is there little change in clock cables effect on the overall sound? Thanks. 

fthompson251

I don't know what clock you have or what's it's clocking but in my experience clocks have hugely inflated prices. My clock is made from a Russian missile. Pre Ukraine war.

Most commercially available clocks have a Rubidium clock the size of a grain of rice. Which is not good.

Cybershaft clocks are good but their cables aren't.

Anyway you should buy a real clock cable which will cost $1000 or more.

The clock cable I use is from Viard Audio, a French company.

Good Luck

@lordmelton I took a look at your system, but frankly you have a lot of stuff that I know nothing about. 

Do you have a streamer? a DAC? and a word clock?

Would a word clock help the Bricasti M1S2, or just the Aurender N20?

Digital signal transmission is settled science. The 0's and 1's of the binary code don't care whether the cable costs $10 or $1000.

@thriftyaudio 

I don’t have a word clock, I have a master clock. A 10 MHz master clock is far superior to a word clock, which usually requires two clock cables.None of your equipment has clock inputs, you must have word or master clock inputs to use a clock.

It would be best to have a streamer with a clock and secondly a CD/SACD.

A DAC will not usually benefit from a clock.

Apologies for my system it hasn’t been upgraded for a long time.

The core of my system is Aurender N20 with master clock coupled to a Plixir 12v DC LPS. My DAC is a Musetec MH-005.

I recommend putting a SR fuse in your DAC.

Cybershaft in Japan make good clocks at reasonable prices.

Pasternack.com has a number of cables that are suitable for clock cables.  Don't need to spend  a ton on cables, they have true 75 and 50 ohm cables.  

Wireworld cables are good.  I have a Starlight 8 that is terminated with BNC on one end and RCA for the other.   

Disagree that dacs will not usually benefit from a clock. One should research the I2S clock within their dac or dac they're considering purchasing. The I2S clock will always be the final clock in any clock chain, native data path within dacs. There is much potential of one being able to better dac internal clock using an external clock via I2S interface. This assumes dac has I2S input, point moot without this. IMO every dac should provide this, otherwise I want to see a quality OXCO clock with quality power supply to that clock within my dac to assure highest potential sound quality, minus this that dac is not achieving highest potential SQ.

@lordmelton thank you for your response. The Aurender N20 is on my very short list of potential streamer upgrades. Which master clock do you use with the N20?

As a side note, I do have an SR fuse in the Pass XA-25. I purchased the amp used and it came with the fuse.

@thriftyaudio 

My master clock is not available anymore but I recommend

Cybershaft   However get your own clock cables and DC cables and power supply

I meant to say put a SR master fuse in your DAC it will make an incredible difference. I find with the N20 I get best results when I play CDs (PCM) through AES/EBU and DSD through USB.

@sns is talking about an I2s clock, this doesn't apply to you because your DAC doesn't have an I2s input, and it's not really a clock anyway, it's a USB to I2s converter.

Good Luck

 

@jasonbourne71

I don't believe a clock cable is a digital cable because it's not emitting a binary signal but a frequency signal. Along with analogue cables IC'S, PC'S and speaker cables are not binary either but you don't like them too.

May I refer you to the Hijari cable thread? Go have some fun!

@fthompson251 "I am wondering if anyone has done any testing, experimenting with different clock cables?” - yes, I’ve evaluated bunch of BNC test cable, mostly used for evaluating my chip designs (clocking circuitry). The winner is GORE, pricey low phase noise addition to the signal cables. Typical cost of those is few thousand dollars per cable, matched diff cables are available too. GORE cables helped to improve test setup resolution to femto-second level. You can take a look at BNC options here: https://www.gore.com/products/gore-microwave-rf-assemblies-general-purpose-test-solutions

Oyaide 510 is an excellent digital interconnects cable, why to worry?