Good point Tubegroover. Good example was Beethoven. He was only 5'6" in height and had short but very strong finger's. His two top piano competitor's during the 1790's in Vienna were Hummel and Josef Wolffi and they both had very large hands and long finger's but were no match against Beethoven who never lost a piano competition in the palace's of Vienna between 1792 and 1798. Its all in the mind. |
Unfortunately, hand strength and dexterity are issues for classical musicians. Robert Schumann hurt his hand in a device that he made which was intended to give him greater reach, strength and flexibility, however the injury that he suffered ruined his concert playing career and so he took up composing. Hand strength and placing ones hands correctly is a learned way of practicing and is just as much a reality as what happens in the Kirov ballet school in St. Petersburg Russia.
Had I said something derogatory or demeaning towards Asian musicians, then I would apologize. To mention that the Asian students in a school that I am typically at, have a greater likelihood of natural technical ability because of hand strength and dexterity is not only a compliment but something that I've brought up a few times with Asian students themselves. No one was ever offended nor did anyone object. Any context beyond what I just mentioned is emotional froth.
In other words, Goofy, KMA!!!!
Swampwalker you can't even be serious. |
"Had I said something derogatory or demeaning towards Asian musicians, then I would apologize. To mention that the Asian students in a school that I am typically at, have a greater likelihood of natural technical ability because of hand strength and dexterity is not only a compliment but something that I've brought up a few times with Asian students themselves. No one was ever offended nor did anyone object. Any context beyond what I just mentioned is emotional froth."
No emotion at all Goofyfoot but as Wolf_Garcia noted with Asians it is probably more of a "numbers game" than any physiological advantage, that's all I'm saying, forget the politics even though underlying stereotyping often leads to erroneous conclusions IME.
Talk about stereotypes, I've got this vision of this hand fetishist professor culling those he deems having the "necessary tools" to become a great musician. Remember, Al Capanis, the VP of the Dodgers back in the mid 80's when asked by Ted Koppel why there weren't more black baseball managers in MLB? And then his obtuse observation that "I truly believe that they may not have some of the necessities..." Was the guy prejudiced? Maybe not conciously but probably unconciously he was or it never would have occured to him to make that comment.
Again, Goofyfoot it just seems that you won't acknowledge that what you and your "experts" are doing is profiling a collective group to fit into a certain mold, a perception that seems to many of us ridiculous as virtually all stereotypes are. |
Also did you know that Jews and Asians traditionally have scored higher on SAT's than any other documented group. Nevertheless, Asians face the toughest challenges being accepted to top ranked colleges in America. But luckily for me, the conservatories have a high population of Asians with admirable intelligence and natural ability. |
China reformed their educational system in the early 80's which resulted in better educated students. In the 60's the U.S. school's were number one globally with the highest SAT score's but when the AFL-CIO took control and unionized the teacher's in the 70's education quality in the states has been on a downward spiral ever since. |
Asians have always faced discrimination in the US educational system. Look back to Lau vs Nichols and the San Francisco Board of Education. I doubt if anyone could even name me five current Asian American College Presidents. |
Audiozen, that union dog won't hunt no matter how many times you say it. |
Goofyfoot...I've re-opened the case at least as it pertains to you. As you seem comfortable with an astonishing level of cluelessness and misinformation regarding topics ranging from hand safety (!) to Asian education possibilities (Lau vs. Nichols was about language based immigration issues, a topic utterly irrelevant to even this convoluted thread), I can only suggest you may do better arguing your baseless race and orthopaedic theories with a less sophisticated group as you seem oblivious to having your hat so frequently handed to you. Dudes (and Dudettes) like yourself often embrace mythological racist theories out of fear and ignorance fueled by personal insecurity...generally one of civilization's worst characteristics that does no good for anybody, and promotes hatred and violence every god damned day. |
I had bought a Cary Audio Design CD player CDP 303 about 12 years ago, and to my surprise I found at the back panel there was a sticker "assembled in Hong Kong " . Within second year the laser lense assembly failed and I had to replace it . Few more years later the analog output stage failed , I found that DAC section has failed . Instead of repairing , I bought a stand alone Bryston DAC to take digital output from my CDP . Four months back it had broken a cd drawer assembly gear . I bought a replacement Gera assembly with belt from eBay and replaced it . So it works fine now .
Against his : I also have a Sony CD player CDP 910 ( 10 cd magazine type ) , MADE IN JAPAN , bought in 1993 . I use it now on my second system . This CD player has never ever given me any problem, and works flawless even today. Not even rubber belt replacement !
Price I paid for Sony CD player was about $500 in 1993, while list price for Cary CDP 303 was $3000 in 2002. |
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Dead serious. Hope I didn't upset your delicate sensibilities. |
No, whatever you say is fine with me. |
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The speaker build houses here were giving us a 30% failure rate, we switched to China and now have a zero% failure rate, at 1/3 the build cost. |
( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/us/us-panel-calls-huawei-and-zte-national-security-threat.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 )closely related: ( http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/01/22/the_top_10_chinese_cyber_attacks_that_we_know_of ) (vhttp://timelines.latimes.com/la-fg-china-cyber-disclosures-timeline/ ) |
Different politics, economies and world views. Spying has been going on for so long now. It's just gotten so sophisticated that "why bother?" and "what, me worry?" are the bars for conscience.
Just now on the news I saw a 10 yr old girl who goes by the moniker CyFi who got bored with a video game and hacked the clock program to speed things up. I think I was still playing with Lincoln Logs at that age.
We live in different times and tech is outpacing us. I'm so glad retirement is on my horizon: I couldn't compete on that level but you know, they could ask for my opinion now and then.
All the best,
Nonoise |
Twenty years ago my brother-in-law who at the time was a government spook would laugh himself silly about his cell phone being taped within minutes after de-boarding a plane in China. |
