Difference in quality in products made in China?


There is a belief among many audiophiles that electronics assembled in China or Korea are not as well made as products assembled in the USA and England. This has nothing to do,(I believe) with the "technical abilities" of workers, as it has to do with standards of quality control, and the sourcing of less quality parts throughout Asia

This may be all hogwash and just biased opinion, but this question comes up to often to be quickly dismissed. From my own experience which is limited compared to other members, the products(amps. pre-amps CD players) I have owned that were made in the USA, or UK, and Canada, have been solid in terms of long term reliability. I would like to hear others opinions on this issue.
sunnyjim

Showing 12 responses by goofyfoot

Why are there so many Asians in western conservatories: because Asians have a physiological advantage. Their hands and fingers are strong and nimble. Their bone structure is considerably different from that of people from European decent. This advantage can carry over into the area of electronics. Look at some of the Japanese products from the 1960's and early 1970's.
As far as intelligence, work ethic and skill is concerned, the Chinese could build and sell Hubble telescopes if it made financial sense for them to do so. By the way, my Quad 2905's sound great and they're built to higher standard than the previous Quads (in my humble opinion). The biggest problem with poorly made Chinese products is that those manufacturers who make cra$ just don't care.
Also did you know that Jews and Asians traditionally have scored higher on SAT's than any other documented group. Nevertheless, Asians face the toughest challenges being accepted to top ranked colleges in America. But luckily for me, the conservatories have a high population of Asians with admirable intelligence and natural ability.
The weirdly racist and unsubstantiated claim that Asians have more "nimble fingers" is utter nonesense. There are simply a LOT of Asians to pick from and therefore a lot of Asians around everywhere (especially in Asia!)...I grew up in Honolulu which is basically an Asian community and learned firsthand that common racial stereotypes are always ignorance based bullshit.

Wolf-garcia, I appreciate your conscious efforts towards being politically correct however my assumption from your post would be that you have limited contact with pedagogues and students in a conservatory situation. This claim is far from being my own generalized assumption but rather information passed on from piano and string players and instructors involved in the classical music field. The most notable being a non-racist minister and piano instructor who attended several excellent conservatories on the east coast. My logic and intuition tells me to believe professionals in the field with venerated standing and honorary credentials.
Swampwalker, is that what I said? If I were to mention to an Asian violinist that she had natural hands for playing the violin (which is often the case), that this would be defamatory remark rather than a simple observation. There was nothing in my original comment that would even suggest racial targeting or criticism towards Asians. Besides this, you know nothing about me, whether my wife is Chinese or whether or not I'm Jewish, nothing, zilch. To think that commenting about the physical strength and dexterity in the physiology of an Asians hands is less than a compliment is taking what I've said totally out of context. This new age-ie woo woo notion that were all physiologically the same and that commenting otherwise is somehow racial profiling is sure nonsense.
Well then Wolf-garcia you undoubtedly must be right. I can see by your responses that you've been involved in teaching classical violin and piano for 60 or so years. But since I have these ridiculous racist stereotypes, then I'll add these as well; Koreans typically have curly blonde hair and pigmies are normally 6 feet tall and it would be my racist perceptions to believe any differently. Get real.
Well Audiozen, that doesn't at all make me feel warm and fuzzy. What a grave mis-justice.
Wolf-garcia, don't you worry about hurting your hand while surfing? I had a friend who played classical guitar and who hurt his hand while using a jackhammer to earn extra income over the summer. He never regained the strength in that hand that he needed for playing classical guitar so he had to switch over to a jazz program. One wrong mishap could ruin your professional music career.
Asians have always faced discrimination in the US educational system. Look back to Lau vs Nichols and the San Francisco Board of Education. I doubt if anyone could even name me five current Asian American College Presidents.
Unfortunately, hand strength and dexterity are issues for classical musicians. Robert Schumann hurt his hand in a device that he made which was intended to give him greater reach, strength and flexibility, however the injury that he suffered ruined his concert playing career and so he took up composing. Hand strength and placing ones hands correctly is a learned way of practicing and is just as much a reality as what happens in the Kirov ballet school in St. Petersburg Russia.
Had I said something derogatory or demeaning towards Asian musicians, then I would apologize. To mention that the Asian students in a school that I am typically at, have a greater likelihood of natural technical ability because of hand strength and dexterity is not only a compliment but something that I've brought up a few times with Asian students themselves. No one was ever offended nor did anyone object. Any context beyond what I just mentioned is emotional froth.

In other words, Goofy, KMA!!!!

Swampwalker you can't even be serious.