Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

Objectivist tools=subjectivist ears =gear component evaluation

Where is acoustic?

We dont hear good speakers at their optimal if we have not designed a room for them... No Speakers sound the same way in different room...

Audiophile experience is not about our "taste" or price tag of components or measured specs...it is about acoustic...

It is incredible how people are completely blinded , the primary matter is under the rug of secondary problem of gear choice and evaluation... Nowadays it is easy to look and pick any components of very good quality at low price...

And the only way to learn how to listen is not measuring gear specs nor listening to it, it is embeddding it in an acoustic space and experiment with varying the acoustic conditions...More fun and more deep  than measuring a design specs  or listening to an amplifier color....

«If there is a war between big egg ender and small egg  ender, crack the egg on the boiler» --Groucho Marx 🤓

I spoke about the acoustic embeddings of a system as primary...

But even electrical embeddings of a system matter a lot...

An anecdote:

I sold my big house and in this big house my audio system was connected to a secondary electrical panel at the second floor, then it was not connected directly on the main electrical panel of the house...

In my actual small one floor house , my system is connected directly on the main panel...

The decreasing of the electrical noise floor level is astonishing... The same gear give a more clearer outline of the sound source and a more transparent soundfield...My Sansui alpha, a very low noise floor  amplifier, as many other good amplifier,  go, metaphorically speaking, from low-fi or mid-fi level to super hi-fi as a costly upgrade formy ears experience...it was astonishing asw if i had another better system...

Acoustic and electrical and mechanical embeddings controls are more important than tasting gear upgrade with our ears, golden one or not, or by measuring their specs and saying that it is the ultimate KEY to audio...Sorry but as useful it can be, verified specs are not the key at all...

Why this is not evident for all ? The key is first acoustic, then electrical and mechanical embeddings control...

This war between people with their ears or tools around the gear components, resulted from the incredible blinders created by one century of gear marketing claims ...The marketers or the designers or the people measuring the gear, never sold us the idea that it is not enough to buy good gear and upgrade it, it is necessary and MORE IMPORTANT to learn how to listen first and doing so by embedding any system in the house/room acoustically, electrically and mechanically...

Acoustic is the queen asleep on the bed , our ears are the prince awakening the princess, the gear are only the 7 working dwarves in the room ...

«Acoustician use blind test time to time on some guinea pigs subjects for psycho-acoustic objective results in some experiments for example, but designing a room, no acoustician blind test himself, because he learn how to listen in doing so » -- Anonymus acoustician😎

This is the most absurd discussion I have ever read on Audiogon (and there have been plenty of contenders).  I understand the fascination with measurements, but I can't objectify my enjoyment of music. I like listening to different musical presentations (both live and reproduced), and I enjoy learning about different products, venues, performers, etc., but I can't say I consistantly enjoy one experience over the other – I guess it feels different depending on my mood.

For the record, I enjoy my wind-up Victrola as much as my hi-fi that plugs into the wall.

For the record, I enjoy my wind-up Victrola as much as my hi-fi that plugs into the wall.

i see what you did there @kahlenz 😂

@rtorchia

"Personally I would never buy anything that wasn’t on his recommended list"

Well there are Dacs on his recommended list that measure very well that sound likr crap and have really poor quality control. Yet he recommends them. Wow!
 

@amir_asr 

You said do we have further questions.
1) Why are you so rude?
2) Why do you throw people off your site for presenting contrary opinions?
3) I bought my Dac at a hifi shop by listening to 7 different ones through the same equipment, with the same music and I had no idea what brand I was listening to or what it cost. The dealer was happy to go back and forth. I purchased the one that sounded second best, (I could not afford the best when I found out what it cost. ) I can tell you that the Topping I listened to sounded like crap with female voices. So do not tell me like some of your minions post, that all well measuring Dacs sound the same.
4) When you recommend something and it later proves to have poor build quality, why do you not take some responsibility and post this? Do you not think it is unethical to leave the product with a recommended rating and not address the quality issue?