Cornwall IV vs. Volti Rival, Razz; Razz v. 1, 2, 3 -- what changed?


Looking for efficient speakers. I had the opportunity to listen to a Cornwall IV yesterday. It was run on nice tubes (Primaluna 400 EL34s) with a bluesound node streamer/dac.

QUESTION: I'm curious if anyone has compared CW IV with Volti Rival of Razz. Thoughts?

QUESTION 2: Anyone know what changed in the Volti Razz when it moved from v. 2 to v. 3?

Thanks

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Also remember just because something is made here doesn't automatically mean it's of higher quality. We know how to do "cheap" in the USA too....

Does anyone here have the boxes their Forte speakers came in?  Perhaps it says on the box where they were made and a picture of that could be provided.  

@hilde45 I can't tell you where the Klipsch cabinets are made, outside of telling you that my pair of Forte IIIs looked great and seemed well constructed.  

I can tell you that I have seen how Volti does things, having been to Greg's Baxter facility twice.  Whether he's building them by hand or using CNC machines the birch plywood he uses is as solid as it comes.  You can see what his speakers actually look like unadorned by looking at the pictures of his "Decorator" Razz speakers (some listed under speakers for sale).   But to me, that's not the way to go because his work with veneers is artisan quality.  The number of folks who come into my house and just gawk at the Rosewood Rivals is crazy (although my wife wishes they were smaller).  

And just to get this out of the way--I like the Forte IIIs.  Greg also likes the Forte IIIs.  They are a ton of fun.  But if you want to love your speakers and have something that you can live with forever, any of the Volit models are the way to go.

@bolong

The website you linked to says,


"Many Klipsch speakers are made in the USA with global materials, however, in recent years, they’ve moved some manufacturing overseas to countries like China. Their speakers within their Heritage line, along with many of their cinema and reference speakers, are still made in America."

That is a piece of evidence, though it’s not coming from Klipsch. Not bad, though. @badgerdms

I can tell you that I have seen how Volti does things...Whether he’s building them by hand or using CNC machines the birch plywood he uses is as solid as it comes.

That’s very nice to know. I’m interested, however, in the claim on Volti’s website (a) that the Forte cab’s are made in China and (b) are "just a step above the highest grade of cardboard" and [cabinet construction] that "falls into the lowest end of that range" and that the it is not "possible to build a cheaper cabinet and have it still function as a speaker cabinet."

Some evidence has been produced here indicating the Volti claim about Klipsch coming from China is false. Some people are testifying to the solidity of their own speakers. We have not yet seen evidence that the Klipsch cabs for the Fortes are made in China, and we have Volti’s testimony that they’re flimsy.