Thuchan,
I'm not sure what you mean by...."it is not a plug & play table"?
The table comes with the Cobra arm mounted so all you need to do is plug in the vacuum module and the speed controller, install your cartridge and play. Two days to build it up?.....they must be thinking of the Walker.
In any case the Continuum retailer or distributor will be setting it up for you initially.
If you have a sturdy wall mounted shelf, this is as good as using the floor-mounted Castellan stand if you don't like the look of the stand?
Have fun in your quest. |
To give you an idea of how I test things:
This is a 126 MB file so it will take a minute to load. I'll keep it up for a day or so :)
http://www.moneyrec.com/vids/audiogon.avi |
Halcro,
yes it is a really time consuming expedition. I know it from Chris (& Steve) in Atlanta, who really knows how to build it up. But in any case I would not do it without the support of Continuum people.
It is a bit easier with the Criterion. You are right one may use other stands like the Castellan. Maybe I am going to use a Copulare Grand Porto in black & silver... have to think about it...
enjoy your excellent system - Eckart |
Peter, amazing video. wow -you are walking between machines. Looks like a studio with warm and nice atmosphere |
Yes, I believe the listening atmosphere is very important to the overall aesthetic of the experience. Such as when seated in our very fine looking (unfortunately with suspicious sonics) Verizon Hall. Please google verizon hall images to see the beauty of it.
Peter |
very good architect - beautiful hall - as the city is |
yesterday i spent 30 minutes or so at CES listening to the Caliburn. it had an Air Tight Supreme mounted, playing thru ARC electronics.
i've listened to the Caliburn 3 other times at shows but never had a true sense of what it's character was compared to my impression of my Rockport. it seemed in the past that i was always listening thru other gear and so could not get a handle on things.
anyone who thinks that the Caliburn is the best tt is certainlly justified. i think it does dig more information from the gooves than the Rockport. there is a remarkable amount of musical (not just stuff) info that is easy to hear. OTOH i think the Rockport has more forward propulsion and continousness, has a greater feeling of solidity and ease, and maybe, just maybe, darker backgrounds.
all these differences between the 2 tt's are not huge, but it's easy to hear when both speak so clearly.
i can think of a few potential reasons for the differences but the 'why' is not really important. i don't have a hankering to sell the Rockport to buy a Caliburn. but i'd love to own both if i could possibly afford it. since it is a current product it's nice to know that at least it's a choice. the Caliburn is a fantastic tt and all us vinyl lovers are better off that it exists. |
great report Mike, did you have the chance to audit the Caliburn playing with the Wilson loudspeakers? |
Dear halcro: Certainly a 100K+ TT has to perform different ( for the better I hope. ) " per se " but certainly too the Cobra has a weight on that performance, obviously in a lower way that the TT it self.
Maybe could be interesting to test the Caliburn with out its dedicated rack-stand and with out the Cobra to find out or to be nearest to the stand alone real TT quality performance.
I know that the Caliburn quality performance comes as a package, I just wondering.
Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul. |
Dear breuninger: Is that a Goldbug cartridge?, that's a very nice vintage LOMC, one of the few MC's that still like me.
Very nice too your whole music room, congratulations!
regards and enjoy the music,
Raul. |
Dear Mike: Do you already listen your Rockport over the same " environment " like the one you heard the Caliburn?.
Maybe the Caliburn is the best TT's out there and I'm not questioning this but what I'm wondering is how you arrive to that Caliburn statement when you heard it in a totally different audio system than the one you own. Do you think that if you hear your Rockport in that same system can the differences still/be the same?
Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul. |
Raul, yes it sure is a Goldbug. A very vivid but yet accurate and natural cartridge. It's one of the favorites. I have a great love affair with LOMCs from Scantechs to Miyabi's, even certain Koetsus (if loaded properly).
Peter |
Mikelavigne and Thuchan--
I too spent some time listening (with my own vinyl I brought with me) to the Continuum at CES yesterday. I fully agree with Mike--I was hearing subtleties and cues I've never heard before, and with an absolutely rock-solid pitch and soundstage. Very impressive. However (and satisfying Thucan's curiosity), the system was playing through Wilson loudspeakers (Sashas, I think?) and for me, this was a great disappointment. I'm just not a Wilson sort of guy. Nonetheless, one could still tell the 'table was doing all the right things. |
i'm on the way home to Seattle from CES, sitting in the Sacramento airport on the wifi, with 3 hours to kill (the flight is delayed till 8pm).
Raul,
true, the CES system the Caliburn was in was not familiar to me, but added to my previous experiences i am comfortable offering my opinion. as a long time Rockport owner i feel there might be an interest in my viewpoint relative to the thread subject. nothing i said was any sort of revelation or bombshell. anyone can ignore or consider my comments as they see fit.
my comments were prefenced by 'i think'. no statements, no proclamations. i'm not likely to hear these tt's side by side anytime soon, or even in the same or similar system. we do what we can.
btw, your point is not unreasonable to make. |
Dear Mike: I don't ignore nothing coming from you, as is I ask you.
I'm interested too in what you and othet people post about the Caliburn and certainly not because I want to buy it ( I don't have than kind of money. ) but I want to figure ( at least ) what the Caliburns really is.
I will try to have the opportunity to hear it. I think that even that many of us can't buy it the experience to hear it is something that ( if we can. ) we can't miss.
Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul. |
Tuchan, I wouldn't recommend using any stand other than the Castellon for the Caliburn as that is the only floor-mounted stand that equals a good wall-mounted shelf and this was told to me by the Caliburn Designer Mark Doehmann. This link will show you how the Caliburn can look in an apartment I designed for my friend Richard CALIBURN |
Peter,
Thank you for sharing the video...it required a bit of time to load, but well worthwhwile :-) Excellent model for assessing a single variable at a time, i.e. cartridges.
Best,
Sam |
Hi Mike,
Thanks for sharing your perspective. You have a reference system/room and I benefit from your experience.
Safe trip home,
Sam |
Mike and Kipdent, thanks for your valuable reports and insights. That`s fantastic. How small the world can be !!
The small Wilsons are different to the big ones - but the Sasha is the new model - hmm
Halcro, this is a fantastically designed living room. The High-End equipment is integrated in a very special way. Your pictures enable views of the Caliburn I did not have so far. Nevertheless what is your friend cooking on the table? :-) |
Hi Halcro,
Great pics! What's the function of the chrome-type cylinder proximate to the tonearm?
Thanks,
Sam |
Sam, you mean the VTA tower of the Cobra I suppose.
They tested the Cobra arm seperately in a German magazine with very good results - but in German magazines you´ll find only positive statements - no balanced comments or suggestions for improvements, tss.
I am leaving now Vegas heading towards my next stop on this Continuum journey - Singapore. |
Hi Sam,
As Tuchan says, the chrome cylinder is in fact the support for the arm pivot and is the method for raising and lowering the VTA of respective arms.
Wow Tuchan, I didn't know you were moving so quickly?
Did you see (hear) anything of interest at CES? |
Thanks Thuchan and Halcro for the clarification. Let us know how things go along as you pursue the quest - I'm really looking forward to hearing of your adventure, Thuchan!
Best,
Sam |
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Syntax,
after CES your link hit the spot, thanks.
we are a sorry lot, aren't we. |
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I had very good talkings in Singapore and now I am quite sure what I will be faced with. Tomorrow morning I will take a great leap forward and go to Australia.
Halcro, I might ring your bell in the evening, if you don`t mind. I will then head forward to Melbourne on my virtual tour... |
Dear Thuchan,
I would be delighted to talk with you or if you stop at Sydney I could meet you as well?
My home number is 612 93871875 or mobile (0)450291747.
I look forward to touching bases?
Regards
Henry |
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Mr.Sintax that is so true :)
The topic here is of interest of a interesting turntable concept. All though my memory of listening to this table a few years ago was not so memorable. By the sounds of things they got the gremlins out of it or just bad timing do to a bad set up I never did any follow up.
Thuchan what a set of beautiful turntables you have always loved those Micros and boy have the used Micro got hot these last few years. Just rmember if you do need to make room for a Caliburn I do have room for one more table at my place.
Lastly hopefully the weather DownUnder will be slightly warmer then in this hemisphere.
Looking forward to your report on the Continuum Caliburn
David |
Hi Thuchan.
phone me if you need any help getting around audiophiles in melbourne.
0410326407
Cheers and have a good trip . |
Thanks Halcro, David and Ldvalve. I had a very nice exchange with Henry in Sydney and I am now heading to Melbourne.
I will take a car. I made this trip some 25 years ago, it took me 2 weeks ending up at Pinguin island and I do remember very well I burned my head completely. This will not happen again. And I will be faster this time.
But maybe something else will start arousing heat in me... I will report. Ldalve I give you a call |
OK.
I'm looking forward to seeing you .
Cheers
Peter |
Having arrived in Melbourne I had the opportunity to audition this TT. All I have to say is: I am very much impressed - but also by the price. If I would get this piece for half the price "deal done". Maybe I have to stay some more days... |
So I guess one "reason not to go for a Caliburn", as you originally asked, is that it costs so much? |
So I guess one "reason not to go for a Caliburn", as you originally asked, is that it costs so much? i think a better way to look at it is that the cost/benefit ratio is not sufficient to close the deal. not a matter of means but of value. he is already drinking from the extreme tt performance well with his current rigs. how much better for how much more money? evidently not enough....yet. so then it comes to the issue of 'i gotta have it anyway'. i've had opportunities to own a Caliburn for less than i'd been offered for my Rockport (although in the interests of full disclosure, not recently). for many different reasons i never went that way. not that i might not be equally or more satisfied with the Caliburn. i just like the Rockport and did not want it to go. |
Rcprince, yes I do think it costs too much! But what should you do?
Mikelavinge, you`re right -maybe it is a matter of getting to know if a Continuum is playing such wonderful in one`s own system. You already made this experience. I envy you.
As some good friends of me say I am a friend of quick decision I only needed one more night and I don`t know what really drove me today`s morning, is it the good seafood & the excellent wine in Melbourne or the wonderful relaxed people overhere? - in Germany there should be lots of snow I heard.
Luckily I rented a station wagon and had some room left, so I put this little wooden crate behind me and I`m now now heading back to Sydney - maybe getting a flight back home.
http://picasaweb.google.de/lh/photo/UHMRwc5EVezTYm2rNFIRuw?feat=directlink |
That looks like some nice luggage you are bringing back home with you. It makes Samsonite look cheap. |
01-17-10: Thuchan writes: I only needed one more night and I don`t know what really drove me today`s morning ... and possibly the beautiful, but hot, summer weather went to your head. Congratulations. Regards, |
Congratulations, Thuchan, assuming that the crate contains what we all think it contains. I think the outcome was inevitable from the start. You just wanted some moral support. I hope you will keep this thread alive by relating to us your judgement of the Caliburn once it is up and running in your own system and in comparison to the fine products you already own. |
Little wooden crate...Little Wooden Crate! :-)
-Sam |
Eckart, Hmmm.....Whatever is inside the crate...Congrats! If it is what I think it is, we'll all celebrate with you. Don't keep us waiting.
TX1000 John |
Dear Eckart,...... that wooden crate looks like a coffin. Did you had to use heavy and persuading arguments to convince the former owner to part with what may be your new toy ?
Greetings from the sick-bed,
D. |
Greetings from the sick-bed... Mate, I told you, listening to "Components-of-the Year" can create serious health problems... |
At this price it should be the great. |
Dear Syntax, ..... and how right you were..... anyway, - looking forward to see a picture with the open coffin.. |
its so heavy - puuh! why I am doing this? I remember Clint Eastwood carrying a large wooden coffin behind him. Maybe I am looking like him now - in the outback... |
Pretty good one, Syntax :-) |
passed customs, on my way home, still very healthy and looking forward to unpacking after having made all clearance procedures |
,,,,I remember Clint Eastwood,,,,
Thuchan did you rough anyone up for a better price? |
