Classical Music for Aficionados


I would like to start a thread, similar to Orpheus’ jazz site, for lovers of classical music.
I will list some of my favorite recordings, CDs as well as LP’s. While good sound is not a prime requisite, it will be a consideration.
  Classical music lovers please feel free to add to my lists.
Discussion of musical and recording issues will be welcome.

I’ll start with a list of CDs.  Records to follow in a later post.

Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique.  Chesky  — Royal Phil. Orch.  Freccia, conductor.
Mahler:  Des Knaben Wunderhorn.  Vanguard Classics — Vienna Festival Orch. Prohaska, conductor.
Prokofiev:  Scythian Suite et. al.  DG  — Chicago Symphony  Abbado, conductor.
Brahms: Symphony #1.  Chesky — London Symph. Orch.  Horenstein, conductor.
Stravinsky: L’Histoire du Soldat. HDTT — Ars Nova.  Mandell, conductor.
Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances. Analogue Productions. — Dallas Symph Orch. Johanos, cond.
Respighi: Roman Festivals et. al. Chesky — Royal Phil. Orch. Freccia, conductor.

All of the above happen to be great sounding recordings, but, as I said, sonics is not a prerequisite.


128x128rvpiano
rv, one of my favorite works by Ravel.  Sensuous indeed.  I will check out the Luxembourg, thanks.  Try this one on for size.  The sometimes forgotten Victoria de Los Angeles sounds glorious:

https://youtu.be/BOntupq6yGM

https://youtu.be/Sir3Ap5lbAc

https://youtu.be/lATgEroT4vA
@rvpiano, it sounds like you installed the Roon Remote app on your iPad and expected it to connect with your streamer. Roon doesn’t work like that. You must install and run Roon Core on a computer (PC/Mac/Linux), which connects with your streamer. The iPad would be used like a remote control for the Roon Core on the computer. See the Roon website: https://roonlabs.com/howroonworks
Just listening to Ravel’s “Scheherazade” for soprano and orchestra, maybe the most sensuous piece of music ever written.
Found it on Qobuz on an album including other Ravel works played by  I’Orchestre Philharmonique du Luxembourg.
A feast for the ears.

Listening to Magnard's symphonies 1 and 2 on Hyperion.  He's no Bruckner and no Mahler, but they definitely have their moments.  Apparently he studied under d'Indy and died, rather tragically, at the beginning of WW1.
Well, although I downloaded the Roon app and my streamer says it’s Roon ready, no Roon devices were located by the app.
I don’t use a PC, I use an iPad.
‘I tried to download the app  for a trial subscription.  Am having technical problems with the App Store.
RV     Do you use Roon on your setup ?
I have my PC tuned with Roon playing Qobuz through it and It is a huge difference to Qobuz playing on it's own. Roon has been much improved lately and the sound quality is now very clean and dynamic. I would certainly recommend it.
Jim,

Thanks for your observations. I certainly concur Idagio is the far superior search engine. 
I just acquired a new streamer that allows me to listen in hi res using Qobuz.
Oddly enough, however, there are times when Idagio sounds better to me, even though it’s not capable of hi res.

@rvpiano      I have had both Qobuz and Idagio and I have noticed a difference between the two in that on CD quality 16/44 files there is not much difference. I do notice that Qobuz definitely has the edge in the higher resolution files with a blacker noise floor and a more dynamic presentation. The Idagio site on the other hand is far superior in the sheer diversity in it's classical library compared to Qobuz. If I look up something on Qobuz it will come up with a few different Artists and bands. If I look it up on Idagio there are a whole lot more to chose from and if your tastes are a bit eclectic then Idagio is certainly for you.
This has nothing to do with music but I have a question about sound.  If you’ve heard both Qobuz and Idagio, do you notice a difference in SQ between the two services?
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

SINFONIA CONCERTANTE IN E-FLAT K364
Vilde Frang (violin)
Maxim Rysanov (viola)
Arcangelo  --  Jonathan Cohen
Warner Classics    2015

allegro maestoso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXdYvB3rACs

andante
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zfSICtEEIM

presto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0A896-KCG4

From the Notes:  "If Mozart was a good but unwilling violinist, he was more comfortable with the viola.  It was on this lower-timbred, usually supporting instrument that he played in string quartets with Haydn, and for which he composed some of his most personal works, including the 'Kegelstatt' Trio K498 and the Sinfonia concertante K364...is a milestone of compositional maturity."

Cheers
Johann Sebastian Bach
ENGLISH SUITES 1, 3 & 5
Piotr Anderszewski (piano)
Warner Classics  2014

Seems like a lot but they are all very short pieces.  

The notes give an account of the history of these works.   They also talk about 'repeats', for example --  "when all the repeats of the pieces are observed, the revised version can make for a rather awkward structure, skewing the formal balance of the suite away from the other movements"...Anderszewski

I have read other accounts of composers being criticized for using repeats.   I guess Bach, Beethoven etc... would say, "do you know who I am?"

Suite No. 3 in G Minor, Prélude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM8cP6tzKIY

Suite No. 3 in G Minor, Gigue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-td1Cw3OBg

Suite No. 1 in A Major, Prélude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSSdoR03Kms

Suite No. 1 in A Major,  Gigue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQPiknYhggs

Suite No. 5 in E Minor,  Prélude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUej83R4sng

Suite No. 5 in E Minor,  Gigue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH2gCpa9hI0

Cheers


HI-FI FIEDLER
Boston Pops Orchestra - Arthur Fiedler
RCA Living Stereo SACD
Recorded in 1956, 1958 and 1960

This man did as much as anyone to popularize Classical Music. Always came across as, ’this should be fun’. It was for everyone to enjoy, not just the self-appointed ’elites’. Worked in my case. His cover art and musical selections said it all. Some say, ’light’ Classics, I say, ’the good stuff’.

Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 (Franz Liszt)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaVL6uhZ7xA

William Tell - Overture (Gioachino Rossini)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ3xTFmYOwA

Marche slave (Piotr Tchaikovsky)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl9VzrciZUk

Cheers





If you want to know if your system is good acoustically...

Listen to the voices surrounding you in this magnificent recording...A studio recording where the singers walk and plays together, one can hear when they turn their head singing... in some part the voices come from behind my back... The interpretation is in german inimitable... 

One of my loved modern opera....With the Busoni Faust....


The soul of an era.... Kurt weill with Lotte Lenya the best recording of the three pennies opera:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR33bL5aNTk&t=850s
NIGEL KENNEDY'S GREATEST HITS
Nigel Kennedy (violin)
EMI Classics  1989-2002

English Chamber Orchestra / Kennedy
City of Birmingham Symphony / Simon Rattle

The Notes:  Kennedy gives his thoughts on each tune.  Several nice pictures.

the lark ascending  (Vaughan Williams)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrVDwNt1Nz4

danny boy      (trad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Keo0Xf4RUsY

scarborough fair   (trad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVFBVAtSZ7k

csardas   (Monti)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwrjjsh_aMs

Cheers


Another:

Pre 1600 !!!!! Stunning use of chromaticism and dissonance:
One of my favorite composer...

the Scriabin of the human voices....

He wrote like Scriabin not to move the human heart only  but to make it more vast and livelier...

Monteverdi use his art to express all there is, he create opera, but Gesualdo sometimes tear the human heart in two parts...One who suffers and the other who recreate....

Thanks for the magnificent unknown to me French interpretation...
Bach is so great that we tend to act as if classical started with him .
 Truth is that from the 11th to 15th century there were composers at his level but they wrote things we don't listen to much today, as in religious
music .
You are right...

Obrecht and Tallis and one hundred other geniuses...

Hildegard of  Bingen is older but what a creative mind...


BOLERO - ORCHESTRAL FIREWORKS
Minnesota Orchestra -- Eiji Oue
Reference Recordings HDCD
Recorded 2000

From The Notes: Extremely interesting snippets on the origin of each piece on this disc. "I have written only one masterpiece," Ravel said, toward the end of his life; "that is the bolero. Unfortunately, it contains no music."

Eiji Oue became the ninth music director of the Minnesota Orchestra in 1995. A native of Hiroshima, Japan. The Orchestra was founded in 1903. Has had some big time music directors over the years. Including Marriner, Dorati and Ormandy.

Rimsky-Korsakov: Tale of Tsar Saltan, Op. 57: Flight of the Bumblebee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YJDbVJoRJk

Klemperer: Lustiger Walzer (Merry Waltz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWK-MVlNshg

Brahms: Hungarian Dance No. 3 in F Major
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kETy5k6ipiQ

Ravel: Bolero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO_AFmqLbZU

Not my idea of ’Orchestral Fireworks’, but a nice collection.

Cheers






Johann Sebastian Bach
PARTITA NO.1 IN B-FLAT MAJOR, BWV 825
Murray Perahia (piano)
Sony Classical   2008-2009

Tidbits from the notes:  In Bach's day music was treated as a consumable commodity,  here one day, gone the next, so new pieces were required on an almost daily basis. --  Bach's music was rarely performed, but widely studied by academics and composers-including Mozart. --  There is scant evidence that Bach played any of his music in public. --  The set of six Partitas were the first works Bach published with the designation "Opus 1."

Praeludium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml4mw0L-0Eg

Menuet I & II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyMEKW3zF3Q

Gigue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vle0Jc7of-E

Cheers
Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky
VIOLIN CONCERTO IN D, OP. 35
Julia Fischer -- violin
Russian National Orchestra -- Yakov Kreizberg
Pentatone Classics SACD 2006

Excellent Booklet. Lots of info on Tchaikovsky, Fischer and Kreizberg.

Notes: Talks about the most profound crisis in Tchaikovsky’s personal life, i.e. his marriage to Antonia Milyukova in 1877: "The marriage had only just taken place, and I had been left alone with my wife, realizing that fate had linked us inseparably, when it suddenly came upon me that I did not feel even simple friendship for her- rather, an aversion in the truest sense of the word."

Maybe it’s possible to know too much about these guys.

Allegro moderato
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI6MnhNJedU

Finale: Allegro vivacissimo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1NyEV-7ZgA

Julia Fischer, born in Munich in1983. has worked with almost every top tier conductor in the world, except Karajan. She was only 6 when he died. Started playing before age 4. Her instrument is of Italian origin made by Jean Baptiste in 1750.

Cheers



Aaron Copland

COPLAND 100
Minnesota Orchestra  --  Eiji Oue
Reference Recordings
HDCD   Recorded 2000

The Notes:  "In 1942 Eugene Goossens and the Cincinnati Symphony commissioned and premiered eighteen new fanfares over the course of the symphony's 1942-43 season.  "It is my idea," explained Goossens, "to make these fanfares stirring and significant contributions to the war effort."  Copland's 'Fanfare for the Common Man' premiered on 12 March, 1943."

"The special qualities of Copland's 'Appalachian Spring(1944), one of the composer's most popular works, owed much to choreographer Martha Graham, for whom it was written."  ... "there's something prim and restrained, simple yet strong, about her which ones tends to think of as American."

Fanfare for the Common Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3kH7-sUTs

Appalachian Spring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3luGMG3PoY

The music definitely has that 'American' sound to it.  Optimistic, like, everything will be alright.  We can do it.

Cheers
Mozart
DIVERTIMENTO IN E-FLAT  (K.563)
CBS Records Masterworks  -  1985
*also available on conventional disc & cassette  :)

Notes:  State this work is infrequently played and is astonishingly little known in spite of it being one of Mozart's greatest masterpieces.  Perhaps the reasons have to do with it's generally dark, even severe cast...dedicated to the Mason, Michael Puchberg, who so often had helped him in his troubles, i.e. money.

Allegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buvM8PvOFrY

Adagio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSaK98LZ6R0

Allegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZuxADlAqhY

Cheers

rvpiano -- yeah, been lovin' that Currentzis Figaro. Yeah, eventually the rapid tempi tire me out a little but all told it's a recording to treasure.
@rvpiano     RV just to let you know I have listened to the recording of 
Pablo Fernandez cello recording. Rachmaninov's music never sounded better than on the cello as he had a great affinity with it . Yes all in all a great recording to while away the hours , literally. You are so right about the tone Ravishing it is.
Beethoven
PIANO TRIOS VOL. 1
Ashkenazy, Perlman, Harrell
EMI   1979-1984    2CD set.

Notes:  Standard fare.  No good gossip.  Synopsis of each Trio.  Does point out that Haydn thought this trio, in C minor, was too 'advanced' for a Viennese public; most musicians would now consider it the finest of the set. -- Andrew Huth

Well, it's not too advanced for us Aficionados!!  :)

Piano Trio No. 3 in C Minor, Op. 1 No. 3: I. Allegro con brio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dvBJKlA_94

Cheers
Beethoven
PIANO CONCERTO No. 5
Leif Ove Andsnes (piano)
Mahler Chamber Orchestra - Andsnes
Sony 2014

Notes:  Talk about the events happening during the time this music was written.  Esp Napoleon's rampage across Europe.  Tells the story of Beethoven seeking shelter in his brother's basement when Vienna came under fire from Napoleon's cannon.  Beethoven pressing pillows to his head in an effort to protect his sensitive ears.  "If I understood as much about the art of war as I do about the art of music," he is reported to have exclaimed,"I would have defeated him!"

Of that, there is no doubt.

piano concerto no. 5 in e-flat major, op. 73 "emperor": I. allegro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE7RSyCfMyU

Cheers

Beethoven
SYMPHONY NO.7 IN A MAJOR, OP.92
Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra
Manfred Honeck, Music director
Reference Recordings SACD     Recorded 2015

From the Notes: "Critics did not comment on the poetic melodies, but rather on the rhythm as the main element of this symphony.  Richard Wagner would later famously refer to the Seventh as "the apotheosis of the dance" and Carl Maria von Weber even remarked that with this work, Beethoven was certainly "now ripe for the madhouse."

also

As Beethoven wrote in his diary,... there were 18 first violins, 18 second violins, 14 violas, 12 cellos, 7 concert basses and 2 contra bassoons.  We have likewise played both the fifth and the seventh symphonies in Pittsburgh with a similarly large cast. ... Additionally, we have used the Viennese classical setting of the orchestra, with the violins sitting on opposite sides of the stage, thus making it possible to bring to life the strong Orchestral drama.  --  Manfred Honeck

I think they succeeded.

Allegro con brio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPzR6kaRsAc

Cheers


Beethoven
EROICA - VARIATIONEN
Bruno Leonardo Gelber (piano)
Orfeo Label     Recorded 1984

In the notes, they talk about and use the word 'improvisations' a lot.  Maybe this should have been posted on JFA.  Seems like here, the improvisations are done by the composer, not the player.

15 Variations & Fugue in E-Flat Major, Op. 35 "Eroica"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMt8IgOMjMc

Another one from the dawn of the CD age.  Made in West Germany   DM35.80

Cheers

@frogman 
Thanks for the info.   I am beginning to appreciate the structure and hierarchy of the orchestra.  I had no idea, except that I knew about the Principles and the violin Concertmaster.

Cheers
Each string section (1rst violins, 2nd violins, violas, cellos and basses) has a “Principal” (“Concertmaster” in the case of the 1rst violins), an “Associate Principal”, and in some orchestras an “Assistant Principal” in addition to the “Principal” and the “Associate Principal”. In some orchestras a player auditions for and would hold a specific chair in a specific stand (usually two players) in the section and that is where they will always sit.

A very smart alternative method is the revolving seating method. In this method, with the exception of the “Principal” players, who will always sit in the first stand of the section, the other section players will rotate and take turns sitting in the various stands. The rotation can take place for different concerts or for different works within a concert. This allows each player to have an opportunity to sit in closer proximity to the section’s principal (and conductor) and avoids any one player having to sit in the last stand of the section which is sometimes comprised of a single player. There are very real musical advantages to this method.
Questions to The Frogman:

At the end of the roster list of the NY Philharmonic  there is this:

"The New York Philharmonic uses the revolving seating method for section string players who are listed alphabetically in the roster."

What does this mean?

Thanks

Cheers
Beethoven
VIOLIN CONCERTO IN D MAJOR
Anne-Sophie Mutter (violin)
New York Philharmonic  --  Kurt Masur
DG SACD    Recorded 2002

The Notes Consist primarily of a conversation between Joachim Kaiser and Sophie Mutter.  ASM: "It was in 1978, a year after my debut with Hebert von Karajan.  He thought I should study the Beethoven next, which I did for half a year with my teacher Aida Stucki.  Then, as agreed, I traveled to Lucerne to play it for Karajan.  But a little way into the piece he said to me:"Go home and come back next year."   (This is so 'German' of the Big Guy.)
"Beethoven certainly never intended with this concerto to oblige violinists' cravings for technical antics"

Beethoven: Violin Concerto In D, Op.61 - 1. Allegro ma non troppo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0Wc1cIJBRE

Excellent booklet with wonderful insights into ASM, HvK and Beethoven.  Thick booklet with glossy color photos and LARGE type. :)   Includes a Complete Roster of the NYP.

Cheers


I enjoyed the Hadelich Bach very much.  You’re right, his approach is low key, very different from the usual.  Effective though.
 His bringing out of the contrapuntal lines at the beginning of the Chaconne was very impressive.
‘I have a further recommendation for you of another wonderful string player: cellist Pablo Ferrandez.  His new recording entitled “Reflections,” is one of the top recordings of the year for me.  It contains mostly Rachmaninoff, but also Spanish composers.  His tone is to die for.  He sounds like Piatigorsky, which is not surprising in that he’s playing on Piatigorsky’s Stradivarius cello. The playing and sound is really extraordinary. It’s also available on Idagio and Qobuz.
‘Enjoy!
Jim,

Thanks for the recommendation.
‘I’ll certainly check it out.
‘I’m glad you liked the “Figaro.”
it really sent me flying.
@rvpiano   You are right the miracle indeed is Mozart but the sound is wonderful. This is the first I have listened to a complete opera in years, Mozart was indeed the greatest operatic composer of his age. My last Figaro was Herman Prey and we could be doing with his power and wit in this performance , the rest of the cast are very good by the way. The orchestra is very vividly recorded and three cheers for the forte piano and lute, a period performance but with a full blooded orchestra. Yes I have to say I have enjoyed this very much, Curenzis notwithstanding sometimes.
       I have one recommendation of my ow this time , It's Bach - Sonatas and Partitas for Solo Violin by Augustin Hadelich.  I have sampled the D Minor and E Major Suites. Don't expect a Fischer, Kavakos or Vengerov as his virtuosity takes a different route. He has a softer tone than the previous three wonders. The great Chaconne of the D minor suite is a wondrous affair as it is played in a distinctly romantic style full and very soft playing. At the beginning of the piece I was reminded of Nathan Millstein with superbly clean playing and his arpegios  and especially his double stopping superbly clean. Although not for everyone at least his intonation and tone are beyond reproach. 
The miracle is Mozart, not Currentzis.by the way.
‘Really nice recording, though.  Beautiful sound as well.
 On Idagio and Qobuz (in hi res.)
Just listening to Mozart’s “The Marriage of Figaro” (in the recent Teodor Currentzis recording.)
A miracle of Western civilization.
George Gershwin
PORGY AND BESS (highlights)
Simon Estes / Roberta Alexander
Rundfunk - Sinfonieorchester Berlin
Leonard Slatkin
Recorded 1984

Another one with the German sales price sticker still attached. DM39.95

From the Notes: Talks about the deeper meaning of the piece. The ’complex’ relationship between Porgy, Crown and Bess. Porgy and Bess, Good and innocent, vs the evil Crown etc... They were not written by Gershwin, so they should be taken with a grain of salt. I think it was, just like most music, entertainment.

A German Radio Band????  It will be played to 'perfection'.

Act 1 - Introduction - Jazzbo Brown Blues - Summertime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2btC1lleG5k

Act 1 - My Man’s Gone Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyGnw2aO6R4

Act 2 - I Got Plenty O’ Nuttin’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L76mHyEIQCA

Act 2 - I Ain’t Got No Shame - It Ain’t Necessarily So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVv-GgJtlMQ

Cheers





In case it hasn't been mentioned before, I'll put in a recommendation for Rameau's Imaginary Symphony, as conducted by Marc Minkowski:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOZxiPU7wo4

https://www.amazon.com/Rameau-Une-Symphonie-Imaginaire-Jean-Philippe/dp/B000935TV8

A delightful recording, in excellent SACD sound.  It's hard to imagine anyone who likes classical music not finding this enjoyable.  
I know I get carried away , but I just got through listening 3 times to the You Tube Shaman/ Abbado/Berlin Phil /Brahms Vn.

It is the best clip I have ever seen on You Tube !Gil and Abbado are as one, the Berlin sounds like a SS Panzer and the audience stated normal clapping at the end and all of a sudden a 1,000 lb  exploded !
. Film is fantastic as well .

I see sometimes You Tube puts a square box on corner which you must tap if you want part 2 of where you are.IMO about as useful as boobs on a rattle snake .
Jim., At least Nichola was not phony , I dare say she has done more for the youth of Scotia then Her Majesty .

Over here It always looked like Charles was the pick of the litter to me because of his stands on keeping the Planet.Today I found  on long BBC program here that his Dad had a lot to dowith that and many charities as well .Good on for Phillip !
I didn’t have time to listen to the Gil/ Abbado /Berliners and made a mistake. Been a while since I heard mine .


They were not good , they were all that night, the Best in the World .The young Gil did what he does so well, play with imagination without
going over the line And the Berliners went right with him !

You Tube did not finish it , at least on my "putter . But I imagine every one who hears it will buy one .

rok, since it is THE greatest aria ever written all should buy that as well .I have 7 different ones and get  my hanky out for every one .
Last night while watching an episode of "Endeavor" on the internet, this aria was part of the music soundtrack. The main character, a Police Detective, is a rapid Opera fan. Looking at the credits I found out it was from ’Madame Butterfly’. After searching my shelves, I discovered I had it on disc, 'The Ultimate Puccini Collection', and by the same singer that was on the soundtrack. Here she be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZZrD4_OAM4

I was not familiar with Ms Crespin

Cheers