CJ Preamp Teflon Recap


Hello,

Have a Conrad Johnson Premier 16LS preamp.  Power supply went out so I sent in for service.  Have the opportunity to get it Teflon Recapped while its there.  Looking for feedback on sound characteristics and does it make the preamp more marketable if I go to sell it.  One friend said it "updates" the 20 year old preamp so its more on par with mid range preamps offered from CJ today - obviously the newer preamp offer other advancements but at least its upgrading the old preamp.  

Thanks, Troy
troynoel
I would be careful with those teflon caps. They have their own sound. on older C gear, would tend to use Jupiter copper foil caps in place of teflon.


Hi,

adding Teflon caps or any other cap will not make your preamp more marketable, any mod or upgrade is for your ears only. If not satisfied with its sound sell it and go for a new one (or used). Your preamp has a lot of caps and is risky just to add Teflons becuase they are good. Define first what you want to change in the sound of this preamp and how to get it. If you like the current character but want more of it search for caps with same sonic signature but better, same applies for its electrolytics, resistors, diodes, etc. 

The following blurb (on A’Gon) is by someone who owns/owned the 16LS II (II = wire upgrade).

Anyway, they compare the 16LS II to the GAT and also discuss/question the Teflon cap upgrade VS cost.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/tube-conrad-johnson-premier-16ls-mk-2-2013-10-20-preamplifiers-926...

PS: Check out the poster's (seller) listed system, which is interesting.

DeKay
I would be inclined to repair power supply only and flip it and go with modern CJ


Hi
Contact Bill Thalman at www.musictechnology.com. He was a former tech at Conrad Johnson. I have used him several times in repairing tube amplification. He is knowledgable on the teflon caps and can give you an honest opinion. I have no financial interest in him or his company.
By the way, I used to own a CJ Premier 16. It's a great preamp.
John
I am usually keen on upgrading parts, but:
- teflon can be a little brittle to my ears, although RelCap is least so
- I prefer the sound of tin and styrene or copper and styrene.

That's with an all ESL system.
Once the Teflon caps are warm, may take a couple hundred hours in all honesty, for them to sound they’re best!

 Get the Teflon caps, and give then a while to stabilize 
 
you will thank yourself after a couple months!
As stated above, Teflon caps have a sound that you may or may not prefer (as does every cap). I'd take @welcher's advice and call the former CJ tech for professional input.

I personally prefer copper foil (and have duelund caps throughout the system), but haven't listened to the most expensive copper teflons. The vcap odam's are also possible upgrades that have received great reviews and might be worth a shot. They're on my list to try.
I agree with Welcher. Call Bill Thalmann, he'll give you an honest assessment. I know first hand major improvements that can be realized through upgrading and totally disagree that you need to necessarily "upgrade"  to a more modern CJ unless you just want to. I had Bill upgrade an older CJ for me 5 years back and I'm still thrilled with this pre-amp. There is plenty that can be done to improve the performance of your Premier LS 16 less spending North of 5k on teflon caps from the manufacturer.