A tube can glow but have an internal short. Hopefully it just took out a fuse.
Can a tube short without blowing?
Loud pop, the left channel went silent. All tubes in the integrated amp remained lit and appeared to be normal. The left channel tube fuse had blown. Can a tube short and cause a fuse blow but without causing the tube to fail? It is probably just a bad fuse but I’ve never had a fuse fail without a cause after initial startup (e.g., first 20 hours). There are 125 hours on the Cary SLI-80HS integrated amp now.
‘Also, can a preamp section tube at EOL cause something like this? After the first 100 hours of run-in I replaced the 6922 tubes with a pair of beloved NOS tubes with many hours on them. They also remained lit throughout the event.
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@txp1 Yes. Usually when you get a pop, its the tube arcing, often due to an internal short. But it might check just fine after that, or it might be dead or anywhere in between. Its a pretty good bet the tube will do it again so its usually best to replace it. |
I had a Mullard xf2 with maybe 1000 hours glow bright red and left channel went out. Opened amp up it was a blown fuse. Did not have extra fuses so called Conrad Johnson to order some. What shocked me was CJ told me to put the same tube back in that red plated when I get fuses in, spayed tube most likely still good. This was a little shocking I asked them a few more times are they sure this can’t be. My fuses came in put bad tube back in and it has been running just fine for last year or so. To this day I still don’t understand but all I know is I didn’t have to buy a new tube, |
@atmasphere @paulcreed Fuse weirdness in play! I replaced the tube fuse and all was well for one day then the AC fuse blew. So I put the stock front-end (preamp) tubes back in and replaced the AC fuse. All good now for a couple days. I need to put the tubes back in that started it all to see if I’m in a similar situation as you were. |
Yes, it is possible for a vacuum tube to develop a short circuit without actually failing or visibly showing signs of damage. A shorted tube can indeed cause a fuse to blow, as the short circuit creates an excessive current draw that the fuse is designed to protect against. When the fuse blows, it interrupts the flow of current to prevent further damage to the amplifier circuitry. In your case, where the left channel tube fuse has blown, it's a clear indication that there is an issue with the left channel, which could be caused by a shorted tube, a wiring problem, or a component failure in that channel's circuitry. As for the preamp section tube (6922), if it's at or near its end of life (EOL), it may cause issues such as noise, distortion, or instability in the amplifier's performance, but it's less likely to directly cause a fuse to blow unless there's a severe internal short circuit in the tube itself. In most cases, a tube reaching its end of life will gradually degrade in performance rather than suddenly causing a fuse to blow. To troubleshoot the issue, you can try the following steps:
In any case, it's important to exercise caution when working with high-voltage equipment like tube amplifiers, and if you're unsure about any aspect of the troubleshooting or repair process, it's best to seek professional assistance to ensure safety and proper resolution of the issue. |