Best Way for my TT to reach my Pre-Amp!?


I have a Rega Planar 3 that sits a few feet too far away to reach my Marantz AV7704 phono stage.

whats the best way to reach my Marantz preamp processor with the short 2 foot phono cables that come with the Rega?

It sounds like rca extensions are going to cause too much capacitance and there is also a difference between phono extension cables and rca cables. Please teach me! 
craigert
Holy crap! Did not even notice this is AV! Of course the phono stage (and everything else) in that will easily be massively improved with anything, absolutely anything- other than of course any other AV type component. 

Wow. I mean wow. AV. Well the good news, only place you can go from here is up. Everything everyone said about how much better you can go, multiply by 10. 

https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/how-good-is-the-marantz-phono-stage.686895/

I believe I was reading this!
That discussion was about the Marantz two channel integrateds, which are different beasts from their surround sound processors.  I didn't see any mention of the AV7704 in that thread.  My suspicion is that the phono pre in the AV7704 is not going to be as good as the ones used in their two channel integrated amps.
Not a dumb question and your assumption is correct.  You can use any of the other inputs but the phono input.  If you use the phono input you'll be amplifying the signal and then amplifying it again and you'll probably get a nasty noise coming out of your speakers.
Ok dumb question. When I buy a phono preamp, will no longer use the phono input of my preamp processor and will instead use the CD line level inputs correct?
the phono Input of the Marantz which I have read is better than most other phono preamps I can buy.


Lol!!! Hilarious! The things people will say to make a sale.

Reality check: Just about any but the cheapest stand alone phono stage will blow away every phono card ever made. Any. And the suggestions above are quite a bit better than "any".
I will work on getting you more info. You guys are the best! Thank you all!

My cartridge is a Nagaoka MP-110!
+1 big_greg! Get a phono stage (Park Puffin, Schiit Mani ...). Much better than the one in that AVR receiver!
Craig
Another option.
What is above the Marantz AV7704 ?
Install a wall shelf just above it. The shelf should be attached to the studs of a load bearing wall. Place you Rega on this shelf with cables feeding the Marantz below.

If the Marantz is in the middle of the rack move it to the top. .
Best to link a pic of the setup.  

Cheers Chris
How much of a problem the capacitance of an RCA extension would cause, if any, depends on the particular cartridge. Let us know what that is. Hopefully its manufacturer provides a recommended load capacitance range.

Also, the input capacitance of the phono stage in your AV7704 adds to the load capacitance that is seen by the cartridge. Unfortunately the documentation on the AV7704 doesn’t specify what that input capacitance is. You might want to contact Marantz and see if they can provide you with that information.

Without having a load capacitance recommendation for the particular cartridge, and without having some idea of the input capacitance of the phono stage of the AV7704, unfortunately the answer to your question has no predictability. And for all we know, depending on those variables the added capacitance of an extension might actually improve sonics, rather than compromising them.

Regards,
-- Al
Blue Jeans Cables has low capacitance cables and you can order them to a custom length. Phono preamps included in a surround sound processor are usually cheapo throw ins to tick off another feature. I admit to never having tried the one in my AV7704, but an entry level phono stage should easily best it. I’m not sure where you read that the phono input of the Marantz is better than most phono preamps you can buy. That is nonsense. A Parks Puffin won’t take up much space and will sound great.
Try a Schiit Mani from Amazon. You don’t like, return it. I bet it beats what you have now. Let it warm up for a few days.
How much will I need to spend on a phono preamp yo match the quality of the Marantz?

For instance, I don’t want to buy a phono preamp and have the sound be worse than having a longer phono cable. 
Craig, yogi is right. Two choices. Move the turntable or get a phono amp preferably with a balanced output.
The problem is that I then need to bipass the phono Input of the Marantz which I have read is better than most other phono preamps I can buy. Will the added capacitance of an rca extension hurt the high end that much?