Your right to have the turntable outside of your playing area. Not many know what of the nice effects of a turntable is it picks up the vibes and room in the reproduction and that gives it a special sound. On a good system just have someone cover the table with a cover, have the music playing and then lift the cover off, you will hear and feel it. Gives vinyl an acoustic feedback so to speak, your hearing your room. The Telefunken label may be long gone but google it. Your system should be about the music not the format nor gear. Gain the experience and you will know when good is good and then sit back and enjoy. I am finding more and more with cables and their off the wall designs are hurting music. Simple solid designs will do the trick, audio jewelry is just that, looks at sky high prices. By the way keep in my it was the Master tapes used and the pressing and cutting of the disc that made the Stones sound so good. To this when ever I hear Sympathy For Devil I feel sad, it sounds like crap compared to the Telefunken DMM pressing. |
phillyb,
Lived in Juneau, AK. Quiet place in winter; especially 40mi out the road. Heard a noise, more that I felt something. Investigated outside. Nothing I could identify. Over and hour and I heard/felt it even more. About 1/2 hr later the sound/vibration increased. Staying at a wilderness lodge.sitting in the big room w/ windows that looked out to the ocean. Then saw the running lights on the Alaska Marine Feery coming from 90ml north out of Haines. This incident made me realize low freq. / bass was a powerful force. When we got home; I put the TT around the corner, away from direct sound.Better Everything!! Dealers setup for convenience. You don't know their system or Room. Pay attention to detail/ setup. Even the best racks , TTs, floor, walls dance to the tune. We spend so much on isolation devices. Out of the room; spend the bucks on long ICs or SC less on a lot of vibration control that will vibrate if you like to RockOut once in awhile. |
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I had a modded Shanling T-80 CDP (tubes, opamps and capacitors) that sounded very close to vinyl.
I now use an Esoteric DV-50S that, while not as warm-sounding as the Shanling, is much more detailed. |
Has anyone auditioned the new Marantz SA-10 ?
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I have owned all Marantz reference players and all have been superb. The SA 10 will join that great group. This one with advances and design. |
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Have you auditioned the SA-10 phillyb?
Happy Listening!
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I use a Prima Luna CD-8 (with upgraded NOS tubes). While I can't claim to be an expert on all the gear that's out there, this one was by far the most analog-sounding player I've come across in its price range ($3K). |
Jafant, I have not. I own a Esoteric K01 so I am not searching for a new player, if I was and for the money my money would go to the Marantz. They are and have always been great sounding, dependable and well made and if a audiophile small company built it cost 3 times more. |
Don't use a CD player as such.
I have a multi-format Pioneer DVD player, which handles SACD, DVD-A and the odd CD here and there, but generally speaking, the CDs (which have all been ripped) are played back through Squeezebox Touches from the files. |
Anyone own a Hegel cd player?
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Musical Fidelity M1 CDT transport, Pagoda balanced dac. |
I use the Modwright modified Marantz player. I like the modifications and performance Dan can get. |
phillyb,
Just listened to Sgt. Peppers 50th on vinyl. You were right. Will listen to the alternate takes when I get home from another follow up with the Surgeon. Well worth having this 50th anniversary issue. Your advice is solid.
Thanks Norbert |
I have an Oppo 103 but never use it for redbook. Only HT Video. I use to. But after much experimentation I discovered ripping CDs using db Poweramp to lossless FLAC. Then playing back the files using a PC running JRIver fed through USB to an outboard DAC made even a player as good as the OPPO sound bad. Even when I ran the Oppo through the same outboard DAC.
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I'm in a dilemma. I have a lot of music on my PC (redbook and high-resoIution). I normally load an album by connecting to the PC using a VNC client on my phone. I have very few SACDs, but a lot of DSD files that I can play from my PC. If you had the money for either the Marantz SA-10 or the Aurender A10, which one would you buy? The Aurender definitely wins in convenience: I would only need to buy an iPad and then I could play everything using the Conductor app. On the other hand, I hear amazing things about the reproduction quality of the Marantz, and although I have already ripped all of my music onto my hard drive, the Marantz can also be used as a DAC via USB (but without a proper control app). The disc reader is nice and a lot of thought has gone into it, as far as I understood from the reviews, but I am afraid that the future will not in physical discs (especially since the Marantz cannot play multi-channel recordings). Any opinions are welcome. |
I never made the jump. But looking at options to play Redbook now, only because some of the records I'm chasing are beyond expensive- 3 and 4 figures. No legit vinyl reissue, or mediocre reissue. But older, some from the tape CDs legitimately released back in the day. I'm considering a basic transport and looking at a cost effective ladder DAC, no oversampling, tube rectification is fine, no additional analog filtering. I'm not really interested in setting up a network, or streaming or DSD. Just the ability to access some relatively obscure recordings for which legit CDs were made, once upon a time. For me to set up a serious digital front end comparable to my vinyl front end would be very costly, and it seems favored DACs are changing rapidly. (I also have quite a collection of CDs that were acquired while I worked on the edge of the industry as a lawyer or bought them for use in a car or on a background system for dining/living area of various houses). So, I'm not starting from scratch on the "software" side. |
Cambridge CXC w/Wyred4Sound DAC1v2 . |
Well in our home we have enjoyed listening too and collecting vinyl over many years however we have now arrived at a decision to move on from vinyl playback all together. A purchase of PS Audios Direct Stream Memory Player and Dac have changed all this. To begin with sound quality from a standard cd is riveting edging out our EMM Labs player and Dac including our vinyl front end by a good mile .
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Yamaha CD-S2100 SACD/CD. I run it balanced and also through my DAC. to be honest, I can't tell the difference between running through DAC. |
California audio labs icon mark ii. Oldie but very musical |
I’m using the Schiit Gungnir Multibit DAC with an Oppo 105D transport. excellent in every respect, but doesn’t capture the spatial element that my analog setup does.
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I just focus on a minimal setup, TT is my only source in my critical listening room. |
@akg_ca - I would love to hear the Rega Isis Valve, however it's WAY out of my price range. I have the Rega Saturn-R which I think is very good, especially at the used price. If the Isis Valve is the same house sound, but just a bit better across the spectrum, I'm sure its a sonic marvel....
BTW, for anyone interested, the Rega Saturn-R is a CD transport/player/DAC all in one very nice chassis. It's a great CD player and transport. It also has a very competent DAC which I use mostly for internet radio (Radio Paradise) and for bit perfect output from an iPod and iPhone through a NuForce iDo. Very nice....... |