As Advised, Starting With Speakers First.


After licking my wounds and on the mend financially, I’m getting poised to rebuild. My wife and I are going to be doing a little touring around WA & OR last week of December and wondered what any of you Pacific Northwester’s thoughts were (yes you too Chuck being a local, but not thinking Tektons just yet) are on some of the local dealers around the area? There’s Tune Hi Fi, Hawthorne Stereo, Definitive Audio, Kitsap Audio and Gig Harbor Audio that all offer some interesting products. Also Reference Media in Bellingham. Any others, pros & cons, general advice, are all welcomed!

These establishments will not even graze all the speaker options out there, so if you have any other speaker recommendations, please let ’em fly. I know, there’s are a ton of threads on speakers, and I am trying to go and hear what I can with my own ears, but I would like to hear of peoples experiences where they order factory direct, which is fairly common these days, sight unseen/unheard and if they are getting/hearing what they want when purchasing blind. Or are you all spending a lot on return shipping?

The listening room at the new digs (ya, even sold the house too) measures 24’ x 15’ with a slightly vaulted ceiling and an L shaped opening to a small kitchen about halfway down. The two end walls that are 15’ wide both have doorways in them so speakers would be in the way. Probably best to have them on one of the long walls. One wall is solid for the first 2 feet then widows 5’ up from there the total length of the wall. The other side is solid, but my back would be to the view whilst listening. All hard surfaces.

Listen to just about every genre of music except Country & opera. Floor standers would be nice bypassing subs, but I’m open (maybe not the wife though, it’s a small house!) Had Martin Logan Spires in the past. Fun to listen to in the sweet spot but got fatiguing during long listening sessions and very unforgiving to poorer recordings. You get what you play.

Budget, well, I sold my previous entire $20K system for about half that so maybe in around $10-12K to replace amp, Dac, source and speakers inclusive.

Thanks
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sounds like you need a system that plays smooth and warm, with good midrange and bass response -- given your room and its windows and hard surfaces 

for wife acceptance factor do you need smallish stylish speakers like thin floorstanders?  or even stand mounts and subwoofers?
Oh, and on your way through Oregon you definitely have to stop at Echo Audio in Portland. By far my favorite Hi-Fi store in the PNW. 
Definitely visit Gig Harbor Audio. Check out Hawthorne especially if you're open to used gear. I haven't looked at their website in a while, but I think they post all their used gear there.
Take millercarbon on his advice and offer. Best of both worlds. I am not sure about Mike Lavigne, though. It must be an experience, but do you want to feel inferior for the rest of your time?
Gig Harbor Audio is a cool dude store, casual and fun. I listened to Harbeths there fed by a reel-to-reel. They have beer on tap!

"My" dealer is Advanced Audio in Tacoma. Victor and Bob are great. 253-472-3133. I bought my Vandersteens there and my Rega CD player. They are an Audio Research, Chord, Vandersteen, McIntosh, Magnepan dealer and maybe Ayre too...can’t remember. Good guys.

A new pair of Vandersteen 2CE Signature IIIs and a Belles integrated amp (w/phono and headphone stage) would be about $6k. Add a Rega Apollo CD player (1000) and turntable and/or Roon Nucleus should keep you near $10k. Good luck!

The Magnepan LRS is supposed to be a stellar speaker and bargain, but would need subwoofers? Advanced Audio has both Vandys and Maggies.
https://www.stereophile.com/content/magnepan-lrs-loudspeaker-0
Good to know Fuzz, that's what I was hopin' for. SF steaks, sounding good

Ya, facten, I think you're spot om GHA even serves up beer while listening!

And Chuck, thank you for your advice and kind offer but I have discussed Tektons many times over with my better half regarding their line up. Maybe in the last house, or a bigger house, but they just ain't gonna work in this little cabin, maybe if we add-on? One day though, I will pop by for a listen, for sure...
Never sent anything back unless it doesn’t work. On their dime.
Happy with all, it lived up to research and reviews.
Eat Chuck’s ribs during a pandemic?
"Die for" is rightI’ll stick with mine. They’re better anyway. 2" swordfish steaks were pretty good tonight. He might beat them with freshness at the coast but he’ll never touch the ones cousin Warren got gratis at the club on Ocean Reef.
Not from the area, but your pick of Gig Harbor looks like a place you should definitely go to , good mix of quality amps and speakers to audition
Hawthorne has a nice selection of turntables. But you want a DAC. Oh well. Hawthorne is right across the street (Roosevelt) from Definitive. Ideally you would do Hawthorne, walk across the street to Definitive, listen to their million dollar (or whatever, might be 2m by now) statement system. Then drive across the lake to my place where you will see and hear just how good a reasonably affordable system can be. Seriously. You owe it to yourself.

Especially since it is the only way to hear just how good you can get with your budget. Because I don’t know about wire and tweaks, but for $10k you can get the same Tekton Moabs ($5k with upgrades) a Raven Blackhawk integrated ($3k) very similar to mine but actually a whole lot better, and still have $2-4k left over for whatever you can get for that with digital. My fingers almost cramped up typing the d-word but to each his own. ;)

Then having settled on your speaker and amp (seriously, once you hear Moabs you will know you are done looking), and smiling warmly as you realize just how doggone good those Moabs are gonna sound in your very own room you can head on over to check out the honest to God statement system of Mike Lavigne’s in North Bend. PM Mike to be sure and make arrangements but the guy is incredibly welcoming. Its a half hour or so from my place but just the drive up towards Snoqualmie Pass is worth it. Especially if you do like the Portland guys did and take the back roads past Snoqualmie Falls and through the little town of Snoqualmie (Twin Peaks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Eb5WeSuc5E ) and North Bend, a lot of which should be decorated for Christmas.

Plan on a couple hours at my place and you will be smart to take me up on my offer of ribs, as they are like my system TDF: to die for.