Thanks soix
I just came back from the house and it looks like there's 12' of wall or so even before the opening door, so the right channel will have a fair bit of space, but the left will be trapped in the corner. With this in mind, do the the
Olympica ll (nice looking unit) and/or KO need much air? |
Good to know Fuzz, that's what I was hopin' for. SF steaks, sounding good
Ya, facten, I think you're spot om GHA even serves up beer while listening!
And Chuck, thank you for your advice and kind offer but I have discussed Tektons many times over with my better half regarding their line up. Maybe in the last house, or a bigger house, but they just ain't gonna work in this little cabin, maybe if we add-on? One day though, I will pop by for a listen, for sure... |
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jjss49 I think you hit the nail on the head! The big buzz these days is open baffles. The Spatial's seem to be the flavor of the day but I'm not sure how they would work in that room and how close they can be to the back wall to perform effectively. I like the theory behind them and it would save a trip south, just gotta pick up the phone and order! Maybe a call to Clayton is in order? |
patrickdowns: awesome, I forgot all about Advanced Audio. I had then bookmarked a couple of years ago, but they seemed to escapes my radar, they didn’t even show up on a Google search of the area. They will definitely be on my To-Do list. Hey big_greg, I have not really researched Portland as of yet but will definitely add Echo Audio to my list. Thanks so much for that! glupson"I am not sure about Mike Lavigne, though. It must be an experience, but do you want to feel inferior for the rest of your time?" Gee, I don't know what to say. Most of your comments, since I have been on AG, are pretty trivial and with no real substance. I'm thinking unless you can offer me some sound advice, maybe you could just keep your comments corraled? Thank you. |
soix - lightly used works. Tubes? Linear Tube Audio peaks my interest. As far as aspects of sound rep, I would like to fill the room more, less head in the vice, pin-point listening. Although this new place is kinda small, (narrow and long) as I think I have decided to place the speakers on the short, 15’ wide (keep the door open?) jjss49 - Excellent info, thank you. Nice to know from someone who actually owns Spatials’. In my trip south it seems like I can cover most bases you mentioned like Harbeths’ and Tritons’ but not Butchardts’. patrickdowns - it’s funny you mention Advanced. I was looking through my old emails and I was going to see Bob around the same time last year but my wife feel ill and we had to cancel. When I Google searched audio shops in the area yesterday only Definitive Audio showed up, so I’m thinking Definitive bought Advanced out? I have sent an email to Bob about setting up another appointment but haven’t heard back yet. Thanks again for rattling my cage on this one! hilde45 - Music is my meds, so it’s just a quick dash out to the store or 2. Not going for ribs or fish steaks. Hence my question about ordering unheard equipment, which I once had a terrible experience with! Wash your hands, cover your face keep your distance, sanitize surfaces. I’ll be as careful as I can...Thanks Someone mentioned source, yes digital only for now. When I was younger, I had thousands of records and a very sweet TT set-up. Lots of fun and sounded great, but like muscle cars, very expensive and time consuming so I sorta got that out of my system (no pun intended) Hawthorne Stereo seems to have a good selection of Spendors’ and Larsons’ which were talked a lot about in another, recent thread here. For that "Up again the wall" cure (maybe screw the door shut!) Active speakers have piqued my interest lately with some having on-board room correction, possibly taking the room out of the equation. Seems active speakers are a little harder to source out to demo though. |
steve59 - Yes, I just touched on this in my last post. I'm definitely open to any suggestions for active speakers with good base (no subs?) for this room. Particularly if room treatments are not an option for me. Small room, small gear. If active sounds good I can do minimalist. Gotta sound good though! As far as listening levels, quit low while puttering around the house but for serious listening sessions somewhere around 92 db’s, give or take a bit. |
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jjss49, that's great help!
The ultimate in social distancing as well. |
patrickdowns - Maybe we can take glupson's unnoticed, sophisticated advice and all meet up together ay MC's and try out those finger lickin' good Tektons' After we all get our vaccinations, of course! (I think Chuck is immune?)
twoleftears - double whammy, wow!
Audio connection/Chapman speakers. I think I could only afford maybe the T-5's, but what an intriguing looking line of speakers.
Thanks!
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I have my appointment with Hawthorne on Saturday, December 26th at 1 PM. I have an email out to Echo but unfortunately I will be passing through Portland on his day off. I did ask if he would see my appointment though. Standing by... |
I'm kind of getting bummed out a bit with the new house thing after watching this video:
Is HiFi For Rich People because I can't afford anything ! - YouTube
At 3:43 the commentator states " You shouldn't even consider buying Hi-Fi at all if you don't have the room or acoustic treatments" Well the room at the new place room sucks and I'm not sure how to treat it acoustically with large widows that open to a great view running the full length of one side of the room.
This was a trade off, a big house with a dedicated music room or a smaller place (960 sq. ft.) with a view. The wife doesn't even want curtains! Is active/DSP the only alterative to rubberizing the room? I don't thing GIK panels all over the place is an option either. I really want my tunes and eat ribs too. What is a guy to do...UGH! Thanks |
Hey Chuck, thanks for the offer, I will definitely take you up on this one day as I have lots of time to figure this out. The new place needs a ton of work so don’t really need tunes for a while yet, just taking my time and researching! This trip is a combo of family visits (daughter is in Tacoma) and my wife and I’s 10th wedding anniversary (Oregon Coast). We haven’t had a holiday or any time off together since then. Just trying to fit in a few audio shops in on route. I don’t want to push to much on her at once, so will forgo it this time around, hope you understand. As much as I don’t think Tektons’ are a great fit in my (and my wife’s!) little space, I would love to have a listen and see all the goodies you have accumulated and tweaked in your system over the years. Maybe I could pick up patrickdowns up at the ferry? |
big_greg - from Echo:
Thanks for reaching out and I certainly wish we could accommodate you, but unfortunately we're only open for pickup and drop off - no in-store auditions or shopping - for the foreseeable future. I bet I know who Big Greg is, but give him our thanks for the recommendation. Best regards, Jake
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twoleftearsTalked to John at AC and stopping into to see him just after Xmas. He's also only an 8 minute walk to Hawthorne's, talk about hitting the ball outta the park!
Thanks so much for the tip.
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Gee, audioguy85, synergy? When I brought this up in a recent post, I was almost crucified for using the term (I’d have to go back and look it up to clarify)
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Oddly enough, a few years back, I had my Martin Logan Spires in a very similar, but much larger room. The room was all hard surfaces. Glass, granite, wood, a full wall of glass, etc. They were also pretty close to the back wall, which I custom made a couple of acoustic panels for. All in all, they sounded pretty darn good, I was very surprised! Still a bit fatiguing but consider the room and the placement, not bad at all.
Since then I sold the ML's for $2,500 and to replace them with a newer equivalent is well over $10K (ESL 11A's). Don't think I'm going there there!
Honestly, I would prefer some passive speakers that I can somehow make work in this room, just not sure how...yet.
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duckworp - Great advice, thank you, but like many others looking to purchase audio equipment most dealers are in the big cities, which can be a long trek for many. On the other side of the coin, some direct sale manufacturers offer in home trials for X amount of time. If you don’t get the right fit after a few try’s, return shipping fees will really start to eat up the budget. It’s funny, many here say they have hit it just right purchasing unheard equipment, whereas others, such as yourself, say you would only purchase if you could actually here it in their own room. Now I know what that space between a rock & a hard place feels like. |
goose Thanks, another hidden gem! I will definitely try to squeeze Olson in on my way back north, |
Could be a shocking experience if we end up with actives! |
Here's what I have lined up for the weekend of December 19:
- Klipsch Cornwall 4's
- Leagacy Signature's
- Harbeth 30.2 XD's
- Devore 0/93's
- Vandersteen 2ce's and Treos
- Magnapan LRS and 1.7's
- Monitor Audio (something in the $2K range, didn't specify model)
- Chapman T7's
- Spendor 7.2's
- Larson's (a couple of models)
- Maybe some Focus speakers?
- There's even a pair of Wharfdale Elysian's around too, for what it's worth
That's about all I could muster up with 2 days down in the big city!
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Spendors' are high on my list as well. |
I would really love to hear some Spatials but there’s nowhere around to have a listen :-( |
twoleftears - Lou is right in my back yard, 10 minutes from my house! I did a little tour for almarg just before his passing as he had a set of Lou’s Ulysses. I put together a lengthy email for Al with a bunch of pictures and a written description of Lou’s place and the area in general. Lou’s speakers are awesome, I even got a listen (I like the Bundles both Lou and Clayton of Spatial Audio offer with the LTA set-up) but the Daedalus units are like pieces of family heirloom furniture that just aren’t going to work for my wife and I at our new digs. I did ask Lou about a custom color and he said it would be WAY more expensive to paint them, over the cost of his wood finished that he offers. Go figure? |
The room:
http://prnt.sc/w0w9bv15' x 40' - The back wall is were fireplace now sits. L shaped into the kitchen on the right, steps back down to 15' wide half way down the room. Windows all down left side, no curtains or blinds. Slightly vaulted ceiling sheathed in OSB. Eventually, hard vinyl plank floor with a couple of rugs. |
+1 boswall good observation, you are correct! |
