As Advised, Starting With Speakers First.


After licking my wounds and on the mend financially, I’m getting poised to rebuild. My wife and I are going to be doing a little touring around WA & OR last week of December and wondered what any of you Pacific Northwester’s thoughts were (yes you too Chuck being a local, but not thinking Tektons just yet) are on some of the local dealers around the area? There’s Tune Hi Fi, Hawthorne Stereo, Definitive Audio, Kitsap Audio and Gig Harbor Audio that all offer some interesting products. Also Reference Media in Bellingham. Any others, pros & cons, general advice, are all welcomed!

These establishments will not even graze all the speaker options out there, so if you have any other speaker recommendations, please let ’em fly. I know, there’s are a ton of threads on speakers, and I am trying to go and hear what I can with my own ears, but I would like to hear of peoples experiences where they order factory direct, which is fairly common these days, sight unseen/unheard and if they are getting/hearing what they want when purchasing blind. Or are you all spending a lot on return shipping?

The listening room at the new digs (ya, even sold the house too) measures 24’ x 15’ with a slightly vaulted ceiling and an L shaped opening to a small kitchen about halfway down. The two end walls that are 15’ wide both have doorways in them so speakers would be in the way. Probably best to have them on one of the long walls. One wall is solid for the first 2 feet then widows 5’ up from there the total length of the wall. The other side is solid, but my back would be to the view whilst listening. All hard surfaces.

Listen to just about every genre of music except Country & opera. Floor standers would be nice bypassing subs, but I’m open (maybe not the wife though, it’s a small house!) Had Martin Logan Spires in the past. Fun to listen to in the sweet spot but got fatiguing during long listening sessions and very unforgiving to poorer recordings. You get what you play.

Budget, well, I sold my previous entire $20K system for about half that so maybe in around $10-12K to replace amp, Dac, source and speakers inclusive.

Thanks
high-amp

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op is coming from m-l's

if he doesn't hear spatials, my money is on him ending up with maggies and subs
i would agree with leftears and others

speakers in the room - that is what actually makes the music you will experience

find the speakers that work well for you in your environment, then tailor the rest

of course, you need to have a source in mind as well, but if it is a reasonably high quality, good  sounding, tonally balanced source, the speaker choice is the lynchpin, around which you match other components
highamp

buchardts are direct sale - so no/few showrooms will demo

here are well done, accurate (imho) reviews

i mention them because they are voiced slightly warm side of neutral but with excellent sense of life and slam, they have truly great bass extension and they have very wide dispersion, so will solve the ’head in a vice issue... i have them in my second system driven by a Hegel H190, they are really outstanding...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZJiEBtfah0&t=1063s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYDc2VKZAv0&t=317s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OTQUb7YGjM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeLw6Oz3Ck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90wKT8aU1_g&t=728s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odn1R_M_QPo&t=433s

op

spatials need 2-3 ft min from front wall, similar to side walls - i also think they also benefit greatly from symmetry in placement relative to room boundaries given their unique bass radiation pattern - i got m3 sapphires after speaking to clayton, enjoy them a lot in my dedicated listening room, but you shd know that they are very ’alive’ sounding speakers, treble is extended/strong even driven with tubes ... i suspect a sound signature like tektons, proacs, kefs i have heard (with all the open baffle benefits of course), they are not at all a ’more reserved, romantic’ speaker

this being said, i have heard older spatial models are more rolled off in the treble, m4’s and m3 turbos - you should be sure to check out pictures of them make sure wife will accept - they can dominate a room, especially a living room

given your ’hard’ room, you might consider spendors or even upper wharfedales, they have a warmer signature with terrific vocal/midband reproduction and solid bass - if stand mounts, harbeths and buchardts are exceptional - another idea is golden ear tritons...

good luck have fun
op

sounds like you need a system that plays smooth and warm, with good midrange and bass response -- given your room and its windows and hard surfaces 

for wife acceptance factor do you need smallish stylish speakers like thin floorstanders?  or even stand mounts and subwoofers?