$2000 Tektons, which one for my use?

Dill...we are just pointing out yet another lie by the Tekton talking heads...just tell the truth , pretty simple

Tvad,
Thanks for the clarification. That makes sense.

Dill,
I agree

missioncoonery,
As I stated, you just dug further into it than I did. Can’t blame you for doing that though... They do make a good product & if I were actually looking for a new pair of speakers, probably would have done the same. All the best with your speaker search!

As you have a sub already you can buy a 2 way speaker and use the sub.

That Said:

Elac Uni-Fi Ref -$1,200 new.

LSA Statement or Signature 10s. Available used.

Golden Ear BRX $1,600 new.

All good. All slightly different.

If the OP says where’s he is, then maybe someone with Textons near him/her would let them have a listen?

@atemoya
Personally I have always purchased speakers after hearing them… except for my center channel and surrounds… which I bought used.

If there are measurements of the speakers, that helps for remote buying. I have seen Elacs, and maybe the others, including Textons, have some measurements? If so that would help. If not then you probably need to listen to them in order to be more sure.

@atemoya
There are quite a few good sounding speakers in your price range. It’s always best to demo the speakers for yourself because preferences are highly subjective. Asking forum members for speakers suggestions will get you multiple answers which can give you a list to further research and/or lead to confusion.

If you want to purchase without listening then it’s simpler to stick with Tekton which is a price/performance bargain.

But if you’re still looking for speaker brand suggestions I’d recommend checking out the GoldenEar Tritons- lots of positive reviews.

Home theater AVRs sonics cannot compete well with a quality 2 channel integrated amplifier. If you want a significant upgrade in sound, then swap/trade your Pioneer Elite VSX-94TXH for a quality 2 channel integrated amplifier.

atemoya,

I’m also almost ready to pull the trigger on the Tekton speakers so very close to the one’s you mention in your post.

This is the email I sent to Eric at Tekton: 10/16/2021 and I’ll rereport back what he says.

Hi Eric.
I have a Clayton S50 full class A amplifier, The Truth preamplifier. And I’m interested in the Perfect Set, the Perfect Set 2-10 and the Enzo 2.7. I need your opinion on which speaker to choose out of the three since I have a solid state amp.

Am I right to assume that the 2-10 has more bass clarity, tone and slam than the Perfect Set and the Enzo 2.7? Or should I choose the 2.7 because of the 6 Ohm average impedance?

I really do like the 2-10 but if the bass is not as dynamic or have more slam than the Perfect Set or the Enzo 2.7? And is there a problem with high powered solid state amps with the 2-10? This is where I have to ask you to help me pick.

My sense of good bass sound may be similar to yours. The sound of the kick pedal strike mallet hitting the bass drum. Hearing the fingers on the strings and colored tones being heard coming from an acoustic double bass itself and the opening of the bass, to the sounds of the fret play on the double bass.

Here is a link of an earlier Tekton discussion about which Tekton to buy?
It is a must read - for you. https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/which-tekton

Right now, I’m more inclined to purchase The Perfect Set with the 12″ Ulfberht Transducers after reading Terry London’s review of The Perfect Set and it’s $400 less than the The Perfect Set 2-10 and use the savings getting the upgrades. Terry London’s review here:

https://6moons.com/audioreview_articles/tekton/?fbclid=IwAR0eVGEdTbCzVI6h0XbVyoAtdecM-1PviVbZgrnCJXw...

That is as good a way of looking at it as any. When I was close to buying Ulf I called and talked with teajay who immediately said don’t, get Moab instead. He said there is hardly any difference between Moab and Ulf, and you can buy an awful lot of stuff for the difference in price.

There are of course differences between all these models. Between many of them however the differences are less than putting one on Townshend Podiums. For the difference in price between Moab and Ulf you could get a Raven Blackhawk, or Podiums, or a serious crossover upgrade like I did, or even some combination thereof. These are all bigger improvements than what you hear between models.    

Whatever you do decide, when you finally do get it home I think your reaction will be like mine the last time I bought a TV many years ago. After spending an inordinate amount of time researching and agonizing over the tiniest differences between models, when I finally got the damn thing home it was so startlingly obviously amazingly better than what I had before it was like, "I coulda thrown a dart!" lol!

millercarbon,

I  think I read some where that you asked Eric if he change the 4 ohm Moab's to 8ohm?
I'm going to ask him a similar question. Can you change a 8ohm speaker to a 4ohm?

atemoya,

I normally would never tell anyone to sell or get rid of their sub, but I’ve owned the

SVS 25-31PC (circular sub)
SVS 20-39PC (circular sub)
SVS 16-46PC (circular sub)

And they all had cuffing. Especially the SVS 25-31PC, more so than the others.

I have since moved on to Power Sound Audio subs. But I want to make this clear. I want (Tekton) a pair of speakers that do not, I repeat, do not need to add an outboard subwoofer. I’m hoping maybe the Perfect Set with 12" woofers will get the job done.

As the Perfect Set should musically play the entire Linear 30Hz-30kHz frequency response. That is what I want to listen to for awhile.

And maybe later, blend in my subs.

P.S. you picked a very unusual looking and very vanilla sweet fruit, for your moniker name here on agon. The first time I ate the fruit was in Brazil, in the middle of the Copacabana retail and restaurant district trying to find a place to eat, and along comes the fruit man with a large cart.

I bought every fruit I could from him that I didn’t know what it was and he let me try each one before I bought it.

Até logo!

Elac Offers a high value speakers from guru speaker designer “Andrew Jones is Vice President of Engineering for ELAC America. During his illustrious career in hi-fi, he has designed speakers at KEF, Infinity, Pioneer, and Technical Audio Devices. Many audiophiles consider his $80,000 TAD Reference One to be one of the greatest speakers ever made.”

Elac Offers a high value speakers from guru speaker designer “Andrew Jones

Guru implies some stab at being magical… How his bio reads somewhat as a more classical education with respect to engineering.

Andrew studied physics and acoustics in university, plus quantum mechanics and other subjects that were perhaps not fully relevant to speaker design.

I think I read some where that you asked Eric if he change the 4 ohm Moab's to 8ohm?

Yes and I had mine made the standard 4 ohm because it sounds better. Mine are run now with a 20wpc Raven Blackhawk, play 106dB at the sweet spot in my large room, and with clarity precision and detail that must be heard to be believed. I would never even think of going 8 ohm.

I'm going to ask him a similar question. Can you change a 8ohm speaker to a 4ohm?

That's a different question. Because the first one was about Moab, but this time its about "a speaker". The total impedance of a speaker is in part the impedance of each driver, but also in the way the drivers are connected, in series or in parallel. So the answer could be yes, could be no. Or it could be yes but only with different drivers. It all depends on the particular speaker.  

Yes and I had mine made the standard 4 ohm because it sounds better. Mine are run now with a 20wpc Raven Blackhawk, play 106dB at the sweet spot in my large room, and with clarity precision and detail that must be heard to be believed. I would never even think of going 8 ohm.

• Is that dB(A) or dB(C)?
  
• Is it peak or slow SPL?
  

It seems like a lot of SPL for 20 wpc

That is loud, with a DBA that's thumpin', and with all those mid range drivers it's pumpin'. Ear plugs and muffs for me.. :-)

I get the ear bone tickle at about 92-95 db.. I have built in "turn it down" ears.

And all with a 20w/channel amplifier.
If it was horns I could believe it, but it just doesn’t add up.

I think the addition of powered subs has something to do with that high output.

I own TEKTON Pendragons....(The Only Tektons that Andrew Robinson has in his top ten speaker list) Every time I listen, I am in Awe of the pure musicallity they produce for their price) Running with 8 watt KT88 Amp and 75 watt SS amp. I just ordered a 2 Watt Zen int. from Decware to run them. I like the 8 ohm version ( Sorry Millercarbon). I think it make them more versatile and you can run them on the 4 ohm or 8 ohm speaker outs. I think Eric's speakers are the best bang for the buck and punch Way over their price point. And they are soooo easy to listen to Classic Rock and cd's that were recorded harshly. It keeps the sizzle but dumps the harshness. Great freakin' speaker.

atemoya,

A number of folks have suggested you reduce your budget for the speakers and instead, get an integrated with cheaper speakers.  I agree with them that the Pioneer Elite VSX-94TXH should be replaced with an integrated.  If you can wait, building your system incrementally may be worth it and very likely more satisfying in the long run.

Consider buying the best speakers you can afford now, $2k - $3k, then save to buy an integrated.  Depending on how much you want to spend on an integrated and HOW LONG it would take you to save for it is something you might consider.  Furthermore, if you decide to buy Tekton speakers new, (did someone say there is a 12 week waiting period?), those 12 weeks are a wash anyway.  During that waiting period, you could be saving for an integrated.

Let's say it takes you half a year (ie. 26 weeks) to save for an integrated.  And lets assume you purchase Tekton's tomorrow but it will be 12 weeks before delivery.  That means you would be running the Tektons on the Pioneer Elite for 14 weeks only (assuming there is little to no wait on the integrated).  If that's the case, is the trade off worth it to run them for 14 weeks on the Pioneer, only to have a much better system afterward?  Or go ahead and buy cheaper speakers and a cheaper integrated today?

Hope this helps to make the decision process a little easier for you.

As much as I hate receivers, I vote for better speakers now and integrated amp later. You must suffer for your hobby from time to time.