Brinkmann vs TW Acustic


Was wondering how these two German manufacturers compare.
Bardo vs Raven One
Oasis vs Raven GT
LaGrange vs Raven AC
Is there a unique sound signature that goes up with the range? Which is a better value? (i.e. maybe the Oasis is better than the Raven AC)
Have heard both in show conditions, but could not pin-point their contribution to the end result as the rest of the system was unfamiliar as well.
iaxelrod
Raul, You tend to use the term "distortion" to describe any factor that results in a deviation from perfect reproduction (whatever that is, and sadly it is often subjective) of what you perceive to be in the grooves. In that sense, I agree that electronics that distort and distortion due to tt speed aberrations could be lumped. All I am saying is that the two are qualitatively very different. They will be perceived differently. If you have perfect electronics, you will still hear the tt distortions. If you have a perfect turntable (in terms of speed accuracy) then you will still hear imperfect electronics. The two "distortions" are of a very different kind with respect to one another. This is why I wrote that one has nothing to do with the other. By now, we know how you feel about tubes. I don't think your analogy between distortions due to electronics and distortions caused by tt speed aberration is a very good one, for reasons just stated.
Syntax, you wrote "...you find for everything a matching example. May I tell you a little story, it is a bit different, but in a way comparable."

Are you inferring that SME provides turntables with higher speed accuracy performance to professional musicians and conductors only? That is how I interpret your analogy to the BMW M5 reviewer and the club owners after they complained about performance.

Could you clarify your point?
What is the speed accuracy of reel to reel please? Does anyone know.

Wasn't much of vinyl originally sourced as such?
Raulirugas,

you said; "Dev is talkind about one critical audio subject: accuracy and things are that he owns tube technology that IMHO is not really accurat"

Wow! as the norm attacks on another's gear, clearly demonstrates you really have no clue. I also own SS gear and other speakers.

You appear that you are suggesting what you own is more accurate, if so that's just too funny :-) Lets all go out and purchase what you have, does that make you happy now! Don't hold your breath on that one happening any time soon.

Curious is that table set-up in the front centre some type of room tuning device adding you position those figurines on top just so Ha! Ha!

Some above are making mention they can't hear the difference when the speed is not locked in for accurate speed, okay I can except that but there are others that can so...

Dgad who actually owns a TW BN table has mentioned in his own postings above he did along with what he hears, did you take the time to read. Syntax says he can and has described what he hears, I also do while using my TW BK so what does this mean. Some can and some can't.

I was able to catch some great waves and will do so again, life is good. Hang loose!
Dear Dev: I'm not questioning what you heard on that TW but only that you could be more specific about, less subjective and more objective. Tha's all.

I asked:

++++ " is so bad that has not a single performance virtue?, if from your point of view it has some virtues: why did not mentioned?, could you? " +++++

with no comments from you.

Certainly I don't want to buy a TW to confirm your posts, I don't need an additional TT. About MS TTs I don't go there ( with my unit ) to rebuild it and I'm not doing it mainly because by its roots/design is a faulty one. I prefer to have a non-faulty design and try to improve it, but this is me.

Anyway, go a head.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.