Are there other people like me ? Amazed by their low cost system :)


Are there other people so much amazed by a relatively low cost system , they consider that is not a stopgap but instead a minimally satisfying ectasy... Each day i am amazed by my speakers and headphone... Am i deaf? Am i ignorant of high end ? Be assured that i know better system with higher acoustic experience and more refined exist ...

My point is an experienced and felt minimal threshold of acoustic qualities and well done and well realized and well manifested acoustic factors exist for me and are at play, for the price invested; so much so , i consider any upgrade way less tempting and if possible would be more, way more , costlier to appear as a real upgrade in quality... For sure an upgrade of part at low cost unbeknowst to me is possible but i must live with what i have for now but i feel no frustration at all. šŸ˜Š

Am i the only one deluded in this way or enlightened in this way ? Pick your choice of word.... šŸ˜Ž

128x128mahgister

OK, if you really want to know.

So I am dedicated to buying almost everything second hand - yesterdayā€™s upper end. I donā€™t mind having to wait to live in luxury. I buy off of Craigslist, from Saturday Audio Exchange (Andy is the best), occasionally Audiogon and Ebay.

So the retail cost equivalent of the system I listen to is about $20K-25K. Paid about $6500. Thatā€™s not to say that is all I spent to get there because it IS a journey and what I like about my approach is auditions are very long term, in my listening room, with my gear. Things I donā€™t use are traded in, traded, or sold for near or at the price I paid.

[Numbers assume Iā€™m listening to digital front end. I also have an analog setup that would increase the above numbers, but still bought used other than the cartridge, and the boys over at Music Direct did me a huge favor when they got me their demo Avid phono preamp on the extra cheap]

Plus I have a lot of alternative gear of equivalent quality and I shuffle the deck pretty often. Thatā€™s helpful when auditioning a recent acquisition since I can try different combinations to see what sounds best with it.

There is a lot of work in that - I donā€™t have the space to do all the acoustical stuff that Mahgister has been able to do, but I do have thick carpet and a vaulted ceiling with decent natural acoustics. I do move gear around, swap connections, angle and toe, use a swarm of subs, etc., and that all takes work to configure well and also keep running. Plus you have to be glued to all the used markets and be opportunistic on purchase - buy whatā€™s available rather than some targeted piece.

I enjoy the sound tremendously. It is magic to me. And one of my favorite things to do is test synergy among components by shuffling the deck - I have a NOS DAC and a SABRE-based DAC and they have different qualities. Levinson SS pre sounds different from the BAT tube pre. 5.1 SACD or DVDA adds another dimension (literally!). Sure, I could combine all that value and have components with 2x-3x the retail price but IMHO itā€™s more about synergy and learning and I am happy with what Iā€™ve got (not that I wouldnā€™t jump at a $10K piece I saw sitting at Goodwill or something).

I almost hesitated to put in numbers because I think itā€™s obnoxious to talk about spend, but did in order to provide some context. Please forgive me if I broke my own rule...at least Iā€™m not talking about my 6 figure system and how it enhances my manhood...

Thanks... Interesting read and very useful post ...Ag insider logo xs@2x

jji666

For sure when i spoke about low cost system being acoustically "magical" the exact price scale level had not much importance... We are all different, with different needs, different possibilities(room) and different budget...

my point is about "relatively low cost system".... From 1,000 bucks to 50,000 bucks if Bill Gates discover downsizing and the joy of experimenting with less and more creativity ( he has no time for that i guess šŸ˜Š If i was him i will buy the best plug it and call it a day in audio) ...

High end is not synonymus with audiophile experience, knowledge and creativity are... Acoustics beat price tags very often ...Synergy is starting point ...

The goal is listening musicĀ  at the minimal acousticalĀ  satisfaction threshold with the best S.Q. for the least money invested ...

@mahgisterĀ 

Excuse me sir, it appears to me that you are the one who is insulting me.Ā  I am not an idiot.

Also, how do you know that my post was directed at you?

I'm glad you enjoy your system and I hope as fervently as I do mine.

Regards,

barts

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Spamming a thread in my book is worst than saying a one sentence insult...

We can ignore a short insult...Not spamming... Insult is aimed at one person... Spamming disturb the thread and aim at all readers...

I never call anyone idiot... But spammers i do...

RepeatingĀ  uninvited ,non sensical words many times with no explanation and refering to no one explicitly is a form ofĀ  spam...

Now if you may take off your post i will take off mine and i will even thank you...

I may even apologize if you prove to me erasing this post that you are not an idiot ...

I am not speaking only as mahgister here , i am also the OP of this thread and i take that seriously ...

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@mahgister

Excuse me sir, it appears to me that you are the one who is insulting me. I am not an idiot.

Also, how do you know that my post was directed at you?

Iā€™m glad you enjoy your system and I hope as fervently as I do mine.

Regards,

barts

I think there are different ways to enjoy music. Ā I enjoy listening to my car radio while driving, which certainly isnā€™t anywhere near ā€œaudiophileā€. Ā When Iā€™m out on the deck or patio, I enjoy listening to my inexpensive Bluetooth speakers. Ā I can be in a sports bar and enjoy music played on a jukebox. Ā Itā€™s all pleasant to me ā€” I donā€™t always have to, or want to, be attending to every single nuance. Ā And my set-up for ā€œseriousā€ listening is rather meager but still better than that of anyone I know. Ā I like it ā€” Iā€™m good. Ā šŸ˜Š