Effect of Internet Service Quality on Streaming?


I’ve struggled for a long time with sound getting much, much worse around dinner time, and in some rare cases I don’t get depth, clarity, dynamics and imaging back until around midnight. Like many people I’ve attributed this to noise on my AC lines. But recently I’ve been wondering if maybe internet service quality is at least contributing to the issue in some manner. When I run tests it appears that speed, jitter, and latency are all higher at times when the sound is poor. That got me wondering if anyone knows whether one type of internet service is better than another for HiFi streaming? For example, is ADSL or DSL better, or does it matter? And what about speed? Particularly interested in anyone who has real world experiences from experimenting in this area…
nyev

I tried the battery experiment for one day, and I should try it again for a longer period and with different amps - but I was not aware of a change in sound quality.  I was using my AGD Duet amps that draw about 13 watts each while listening to music, so they were well below the capacity of the EcoFlow battery  (1800w, Surge 3400w).   In any case, it's good to know I can still listen to music during power outages. 

@nyev

And, one kid is playing games online and the other is FaceTiming friends in a marathon call.

@wsrrsw

Have you asked, bribed or manacled your kids and others to cease web activity during the sound downturn times?

There is a much better solution than cajoling your kids. Look up Quality of Service (QoS) and how to set it on your router. This will enable you to allocate bandwidth to streaming that cannot be usurped by Call of Duty or FaceTime.

You don’t need to allocate a lot to streaming. Even a hi-res 192/24 stream only uses about 10 Mbs.

 

Lots of good recommendations !  I had issues with streaming music versus the EXACT same album loaded on my Innuos ZENith MK3 with a Phoenix USB re-clocker.  I use Qobuz which in my listening opinion sounds slightly better than Tidal.  No matter what time of day though did streaming sound much better until I added in an Uptone-Audio EtherREGEN device between my Ethernet modem and the ZENith.  Finally the music streamed was very close to that loaded onto the ZENith.  I believe re-clocking the Ethernet signal with high-quality clocking and noise isolation from the EtherREGEN made all the difference no matter what time of day. It's the most cost-effective $-for$ I've spent for sonic improvement.  My present cable internet service is ~300mbps.  I will soon be going to fiber-optics with another ISP and their minimum service is ~500mbps.  So, with this change I'll know if anything improves, as I will keep both running and do a direct comparison before cancelling the cable service.  I'll let y'all know what I find !  In my opinion, I don't think for audio you would need any more than what I have presently for internet speed as sonically the streamed music is extremely close (splitting hairs) to that stored on my music server.  

I have recently been through a refresher coarse, so to speak. We had issues with cable TV., so we are streaming TV now. I had previously been streaming over 4 years.  Here are a few items I found out.

-it takes 1Mb to stream music

-each tv uses 25Mb.

-then of course you would have all the others connected to WiFi. Cell phones, laptops, printers.  It is easy to have a dozen items connected

-anything over 108V is considered acceptable to the power utility..  132V is OK on the high side. 

-Noise coming in the line is one thing but wall warts, connections all add EMI/RFI.

-LPS on router/modem. Add a filter to your ethernet line from router to streamer.  You could experiment with some $50 DX Engineering inline filters.  I have a Furman that I plug everything in to.  My accuracy and sound staging took a big step forward after reducing vibration, having good connections and cleaning up noise in the digital domain.

 

It’s probably some external change since internal changes (audio chain components) do not happen according to the 24 hour clock - worse dinner time then problems ends at the latest midnight.  Therefore the obvious eternal influences are power and internet connection, or somehow EMF/RFI spikes periodically in his living zone.  

Seems the only external influences come from RFI, EMI, power line, internet connection.  If not within the home, then it’s the power line or the internet connection.  Both peak times coincide when people use both more power and personal internet resources, dwindling as people go to bed.  It can also be some business using more resources, like a restaurant, illegal manufacturing lab, Internet cafe.

If it’s the internet connection, then maybe change carriers or change carrier line if possible.

If it’s electrical, then maybe get your power quality tested. For crappy power, Stromtank or solar panels + battery storage system to at least get your system off the grid.  Maybe balanced power conditioner like Equitech o EquiCore might help.  Or a power generator like PS Audio.  Good luck.