WHY IS THERE SO MUCH HATE FOR THE HIGH END GEAR ON AUDIO GEAR?


It seems like when I see comments on high end gear there is a lot of negativity. I have been an audiophile for the last 20 years. Honestly, if you know how to choose gear and match gear a lot of the high end gear is just better. When it comes to price people can charge what they want for what they create. If you don’t want it. Don’t pay for it. Look if you are blessed to afford the best bear and you can get it. It can be very sonically pleasing. Then do it. Now if you are also smart and knowledgeable you can get high end sound at mid-fi prices then do it. It’s the beauty of our our hobby. To build a system that competes with the better more expensive sounding systems out there. THOUGHTS?

calvinj

At the level participated in by many here, this is a niche hobby with a relatively wide range of products being marketed to a relatively small (and becoming smaller) audience of hobbyists.  As such, development, manufacturing, inventory, and sales costs are high on a per unit basis.  Parts and construction costs are not going to directly relate to retail pricing in many cases. 

There are many considerations that impact the difference between a successful endeavor and a failure in this industry, such as the depth of a product range, price points served, dealer network or not, volume of manufacturing operation, and more.  I suspect for most, success in the audio industry is precarious at best, mostly for people who really love audio, and certainly not for the faint of heart.

As a buyer, do your homework and realize the person looking out for you the most is yourself.  If you find some folks along the way that you develop good relationships with and can trust, remember that those relationships need to be 2-way streets to survive.  

We live in interesting times.

In audio, there has never been a better time to be seeking and buying audio equipment, for many reasons. The web has made information available to everyone with a smartphone at every level of the industry not previously possible, but particularly from end users where experience of new products at the end-user level was previously difficult, commonly only by word of mouth, sometimes filtered through dealers who may have had their own interests in mind when it came to sharing information. New producers in China and elsewhere have added novel and competitively-priced equipment that introduce new considerations to the value proposition. Buyers rightfully question whether the prices asked for some gear represent a fair return for the price paid both in performance and reliability. Support for costly gear becomes a legitimate question for dealers who are the intermediaries to the end user and who really should be prepared to support the customers effectively, especially for goods priced well above mass market products. That means having an efficient and capable local service facility and cultivating relationships only with producers that have an effective parts and service network for their products.

"Hate" for high-end products is wasted emotional energy. In consumer goods, Veblen goods have always existed, exclusive by being expensive, attractive because of exclusiveness. Unmasking some of those goods as poor value in the WWW by product analysts and testing reviewers restores a balance to what was once a very assymetrically-informed market. That is a good thing. At the same time, recognizing that some factors in pricing gear at the high end are a necessary part of a functioning economy: domestic (e.g., USA) production requires skilled people making attractive-enough wages, companies that have resources to devote to new product development and to support their end users and dealer networks. Everyone needs to eat.

Is the dealer mafia like the teacher mafia or the plumber mafia or the car sales mafia? I always love it when individuals draw a line in the sand regarding the value of (always) other people's time. 

Elon Musk is not permitted to sell his "Made in America" cars in several AMERICAN STATES (because he went manufacturer direct), thanks to the dealer mafia. You can buy a Kia and a Toyota in those states. We know all about the dealer mafia.