All Pre 1970 Vintage speakers suck! Prove me wrong


Have tried many vintage speakers.

My conclusion: All pre-1970 vintage speakers suck. Well-made but crappy  sound.

Used with both vintage amps and modern.

I do like many vintage amps such as Radio Craftsmen RC-500, Marantz tube, Scott tube, Heath W5, Lafayette and Pilot tube.

But back to pre-1970 speakers:

No bass, harsh, or honky mids and no highs. Not musical or listenable to me.

Tried many including Acoustic Research AR-3a, 2Ax, etc. The entire AR product line. Also Klipsch Horn, Large EVs. Altec VOTT. Pioneer CS-88 and 99.

Nothing pre 1970 is even close to the better modern speakers.

I challenge you: Prove me wrong.

lion

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Any vintage speakers that sound as good overall as, say, JM Labs Grand Utopia ?

When were Infinity Servo-Static 1A around?  Tannoy?  (those were my favorites)

@inna 

Any vintage speakers that sound as good overall as, say, JM Labs Grand Utopia ?

That would depend on what you're looking for. If it was dynamics for instance, old horns will beat them. In other ways I'm sure that the Utopias are more faithful to a source.

Roxy54,

I agree.  I do like the Grand Utopias, but at the modest listening levels I prefer, they don’t have the liveliness of great horn systems.  Which is best depends on priorities.  For comparable dollars spent, I can get a custom designed horn system with YL horn and compression driver, and 18” Goodman field coil woofer.  It won’t go as deep or have the same bass impact as the Grand Utopia, but that kind of bass is not a personal priority.  
There are non-horn systems that I also like a lot too, some of them utilizing vintage drivers.  I particularly like the Jensen M10 field coil wide range driver (13” driver) with a simple high pass to a tweeter crossed in way on top.  The system I heard used an RP 302 tweeter, but my dream system would have a Western Electric 597 field coil tweeter.