First Tube amp suggestions


I am thinking of buying my first tube amplifier and really have no idea where to start.  Years ago I listened to a Sophia Electric  el34 amp (SET) driving a pair of Joseph Audio rm7si bookshelf speakers in a very well set up room and could not believe how sweet they sounded together for the price. (It really felt like James Taylor was in the room).  I regret that I never pulled the trigger on that system and do not know what a good entry level system would be nowadays.  I listen  mainly to male and female folk rock and an occasional classical or jazz album (Cd's and streaming from Tidal)  My current speakers are Triangle Borea BR03's  -90 db but am open to swapping them out. and the listening room is 14' x 20'.  There is a lot of internet chatter about low cost tube amps like the Reisong A12 and the mid priced Williston R8.  Are these amps worth buying or where should I start?  Thanks in advance!

tritube

@tritube Looking at the impedance curve that @hilde45 provided, its obvious to me an SET will not do the job.

You need an amplifier with a low output impedance, otherwise your system will have colorations. SETs have a high output impedance. If you really want that 'artist in the room' imaging, look elsewhere.

The efficiency is also an issue for an SET. You need more power than they can provide on a budget! Since you are looking for budget tube power, I think you are better off looking in the used market, possibly for a refurbished Dynaco ST70, which can make 35 Watts/channel.

Now if you are open to replacing the speakers as well, if you really want an SET, the speaker has to be more efficient than most internet posters will have you believe. SETs really only make about 20-25% usable power; above that distortion becomes so high that the amp takes on a 'dynamic' quality and at higher power levels tends to sound loud or shouty. This latter bit is why so many SET users think their 7 Watt amp is enough power- it isn't! If they had clean power they would figure out that they are playing much higher volume levels without the system sounding loud. IOW distortion is what makes SETs sound loud. 

High efficiency speakers don't tend to be inexpensive since the magnet motor requires considerably more precision to execute and that costs money. You also sacrifice bass unless you really have a large budget or can afford subs.

That is why I think a refurbished older amp is your best bet.

 

 

Tubes4Hifi offers the VTA amps in kit or complete.  These are power amps, not integrated amps, so would require a separate preamp unless your NAD has pre-out capability. 

I added the VTA mods to my pair of Dyna 70s about 3 years ago, and have been extremely pleased, and feel I'd be remiss for not mentioning them.  I also listen primarily to folk rock, jazz, male/female vocals, and find that they drive my 89db sensitivity speakers nice in even in a large room.  A completed VTA 70 (35wpc) is just about within budget, and is definitely within reach if you're willing to solder.  

Either way, I hope you find the same magical midrange that many tube lovers do.  

The Black Ice FX10 looks like a good/budget bet (heard the Jolida version years ago).

The "SET " designation for the Sophia push/pull EL34 amp mentioned stood for Sophia Electric Technology (or something like that) and had nothing to do with "Single Ended Triode". 

 

DeKay

A el34 push pull in ultrralinear mode should work well with the OP’s speakers. I belirve the Black Ice or the LSA as aforementioned.