McIntosh MC901's internal active crossover & speaker's internal passive crossover


hi all,
There are two sets of crossovers in a single system.  What do you think?  good or bad? why or why not?

To maximize the performance of MC901, do I need to disconnect speakers' internal passive crossover from the bass, mid range and tweeter units?

thank you!

believer

@cleeds Wrote:

Agreed, biwiring doesn't make much sense and neither do the jumpers. 

I agree! Bi-wiring is a joke.

Mike

PS - I'm not in any way advocating for bi-wiring.  Just sharing what I know about speaker crossovers and the connectors out the back. :)

OP @ Believer

There's a lot of info here that may be relevant to your question. If you own or are looking to own these amps and are looking for info based on the specifics of these amplifiers, I can help. These are a significant investment and VERY rare in topic discussion here, so want to make sure you receive the info and perspective based on experience that will help. 

@erik_squires what you're essentially claiming is that any speaker that can be biwired can also be biamplified - that the two terms are interchangeable. That's simply mistaken and, as I noted, easily tested with a DMM or VOM.

When you biwire, you do not send the full amplifier output to the tweeter, do you? Of course not, you’d blow the bugger out. It still goes through the speaker’s x-over. It’s easy to verify with a DMM - just check for continuity. Spendors used to be wired that way, IIRC, and it always puzzled me.

I agree that you should check for continuity before bi-amping, Check hot to hot and ground to ground. I’ve seen all 3 cases:

  1. Infinite impedance
  2. Both internally shorted (0 Ohms)
  3. Ground only shorted

In the case of 1, bi-amping is fully safe.

In the case of 2, no bi-amping at all is safe

In the case of 3, only unbalanced amps with 1 hot output are safe.

In all cases listed the internal crossover remains in place.  It's really a manufacturing choice whether or not the filters are joined internally. 

Want to point out that there’s a number of A’goners who are successfully passively bi-amping. 1 and 3 seem to be the most common situation.