Tube-Curious/Pre-amp


Hi guys

I've been toying with the idea of tubes for a while, and was wondering if a tube pre-amp would be worthwhile pairing with my Class A/B integrated - Atoll IN200 Signature (the Atoll has the function to bypass its own internal pre-amp section, and pair the power section with an external pre-amp).

I predominantly listen to Jazz (all eras, all flavours) and am very interested to hear what tubes would bring me; I've casually read around, and the description of sound from reviewers and regular users does appeal to me greatly. 

I am aware of the Schiit Freya +, and from what I can make out, with some tube swapping, the Freya can produce some good results; but apart from this I'm not really sure what I should be looking at. I'm not looking to spend multiple thousands on this little side interest, or replace my Atoll./Solid State, but to just give myself an exposure to tubes in my audio chain. 

The other option I suppose, is to look at the offerings from Willsenton as an additional integrated, such as the R300 (this seems to be well received, and at a  reasonable price tag). 

Any advice/guidance gratefully received

Thanks very much 👍

 

 

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I've owned lots of preamps over many years, but my original version Freya (early adopter) with NOS GEs is a superb sounding preamp with features nothing else even comes close to. Runs quieter in its tube mode than most SS or passive preamps do without tubes, works beautifully with tube or SS amps (I use either a hand made Dennis Had Firebottle tube amp or more often a brilliant Pass XA-25), and costs less new than any US made anything else. It sort of has no actual competition in its class...it's just too inexpensive for many so-called audiophiles, but gets a "Class A" rating in Stereophile anyway. 

Why not look into hybrid integrated amps?  You could sell or trade your Atoll in.  I had a pair of bridged Pathos Classic One MK III's a few years ago that were quite nice and before that miscellaneous Chinese amps, Xindak and Consonace.  Soundwise, all were nice but reliability issues would preclude a recommendation on those Sino-amps.  And being in the UK, you have access to all of Europe and a better exchange rate.  Go to hifishark and type in "hybrid integrated" , both for sale and those already sold, for several possibilities

 

I saw someone mentioned a Dared. If you can find a used Dared SL2000a I'd say it is a great true tube preamp if you are wanting to get your feet wet. They are sensitive to tube rolling so you can get a few different flavors out of it. Runs off a 5z4g rectifier or equivalent and a pair of 12at7's. It is so sensitive to tubes even the rectifier you choose will make a big difference. Only 2 inputs but has 2 outputs as well. Good internal components like Rubycons, auricaps, silver wiring inside..although some later models had different coupling caps than the auricaps, they sounded just as quiet and transparent though. They are of Chi-Fi nature but reliability was never an issue, mines over 12 years old and I still use it on occasion with no problems. I use an integrated amp mostly these days but I'll run the Dared thru the HT bypass when I'm in the mood for certain genres of music and want that little extra realism or roundness to the instruments. 

They don't pop up on the 2nd hand market much but when they do they usually go between 3 and $500. A lot of good preamps mentioned in this thread but with you saying you just wanna try out some tube sound I would go used and cheap if you can find a decent one..or I guess you could try new from a U.S. company if you can get a 30 or 60 day return policy. Just thought I'd give Dared a 2nd mention on the thread, I even had one of their "cheap" tube amps a long time ago..I had no complaints. 

They do have other tube preamps and amps to look at, some cheaper than others,  but I think the SL2000a is a great cheap, very quiet, tube preamp. I run mine thru an Arcam SA30 which is pretty quiet and transparent, with the tube pre it's still the same, just adds a little roundness to the instruments. Good luck, seems like a lot of good gear was brought up by members here.