Nearly all manufacturers do not advertise/exhibit their product measurements? Why?


After my Audio Science Review review forum, it became apparent that nearly the only way one can determine the measurements of an audio product is wait for a review on line or in a publication.  Most equipment is never reviewed or is given a subjective analysis rather than a measurement oriented review.  One would think that manufacturers used tests and measurements to design and construct their products. 

Manufacturers routinely give the performance characteristics of their products as Specifications.  Those are not test measurements.

I searched the Revel speaker site for measurements of any of their speakers and could not find any.  Revels are universally lauded for their exceptional reviewed measurements.  Lack of published manufacturer measurements is true for nearly every speaker manufacturer I've searched for on line, perhaps several hundred.   Same is true for amps, pre-amps, DACs, transports, turntables, well you get the picture.  Do they have something to hide?   I doubt the good quality products have anything to hide but poor quality products do.  

ASR prides itself in providing "true" measurements that will aid in purchase decisions.   Why don't the manufacturers provide these measurements so that reviewers can test if they are truthful or not?

Then there are the cables and tweaks for which I suspect that there are inadequate tests available to measure sonically perceived differences but which objectivists believe don't exist or are "snake oil."  

Well, please chime in if you have some illuminating thoughts on the subject.   

I would have loved to see manufacturers measurements on my equipment and especially those that I rejected.  

fleschler

@fleschler 

@kota1  Right! Where are his in room test measurements?  Did he post them on his site?  Or does he think that just by choosing the best measuring equipment (and any old major brand professional cable) that his room sound measures perfectly (or anywhere near perfect throughout or just in the sweet spot seat)? 

If you are interested, you can see measurements in his listening room (with and without room EQ via the Lyngdorf) in the ASR discussion linked by @prof upthread (iirc). This one (sorry to inflict the ASR sheep logo on everyone, not sure how to link without embedding) ...

 

I don't use this term lightly because it's often tossed around too recklessly.

But jerryg123 is clearly trolling.   Again...what people get out of being trolls is beyond me, it's a very odd way to spend one's time, but...almost every forum is infected at one point or another by people who spend their time that way.

I suppose at least it has afforded an opportunity for Amir to re-iterate some of his credentials for others who may be interested, but clearly you-know-who is not here for actual civil conversation.

 

 

@kota1 

system/FR measurement throw down-

Audiogon Forum 1- ASR 0

I don't know why you keep giving  yourself score of 1.  You have not post any measurements of your room as it sits now.  What you have in your profile is a fantasy.  It is NOT your room current room measurements.  You don't even know how to use the tool you have there.  Right now, I would give you score of -1. 

@amir_asr

Still waiting for you to post something, anything, that is why you have 0.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt you have a system so you do not get -1.

Can we get this game on, will you post your system profile, stop with the hot air already???

 

 

 

@prof you are a reader right? You troll through all these threads cause you have nothing better to do. 

How did you miss this? Amir tagged me. 

Now goodnight to you and charge those batteries on your trolling motor.