which is a better speaker


I am looking to buy a pair of speakers to use with my 2265B Marantz which would be better Pioneer HPM 100 or Jbl 120ti

mike317

It's been said that "you can't blame a compass for pointing north".  And, when you make an inquiry to a group of audiophiles you can expect "audiophile" responses from "audiophiles".  If the question were posed on a forum for oral surgeons: "What toothpaste should  I buy -- Colgate or Crest?" you'd expect a strong critique of mainstream, available at Target/Walmart oral hygiene products as well as some professional recommendations of sensible alternatives.  There ARE actual audio experts on this forum.  And, the price of admission for that advice is reasonable.  Free.

My part time "gig" after retirement involves servicing vintage audio equipment.  The primary goal is to prevent good gear from going into the dumpster.  We are indifferent to brand, price point, overall condition, etc. Our primary prerequisite is that the piece must have a strong emotional attachment to its owner.  It cost us about $3 for each $1 we bring in.  Not a great return on investment. Being there at times like when a retired eye surgeon breaks out into tears after we fire up his father's stereo that's been in storage for 50+ years, is our reward. 

Vintage "stuff" brings us back to an era of authenticity, but it's more than that.  For some of us, the journey from childhood to adulthood was enhanced by music and the hardware that produced the music.  Some of the best of the best memories of our lifetimes involved those knobs, switches, levers, meters, dials, and fret wood grilles. While it might a stretch to call them a literal fountain of youth, our old gear certainly does return us to "feel good" moments that are unique to that equipment.  Referencing, again, the service component mentioned above, I'm sure that in 90% of the cases listed above, if the owner(s) were offered 10x the value their equipment in exchange much better sounding modern gear, the answer would be a resounding "NO!"

Seeking a "rational decision" involving elements with an emotional attachment is an irrational approach in that it is impossible to place a value on the those elements. 

That being said, the OP's comments about the group, in general, was a bit heavy handed.  I am genuinely impressed with this group's commitment to serving others.  These are the kinda guys I'd like to have as neighbors when my riding mower won't start.  They'd be there to pull the plug, rebuild the carb, etc.  Then, offer ME a cold one after THEY've done all the work.

As, yes, the HPM100s are pretty special.

Just a note to my A'Gon friends:  Mainstream vintage gear can take on real audiophile characteristic with a little attention to parts quality and application of "newer thinking".  We do this routinely and are often surprised (stunned!) with the results.

There are tons of speakers as well as reviews of same. Just decide what you want, stand mount or floor standing, then read lots of reviews about them and narrow the field to a few. Then go listen if possible. If not possible, trust the reviews if many seem to agree, and take a chance on a pair. Most things can be returned in 30 to 60 days.....

Mike, you might want to ask your question on Audiokarma. There are a lot of folks there who have experience with your receiver and both speakers. I will agree with other posters who stated that your receiver should probably be refurbished. 

JBL have a well earned reputation for punchy sound and with the right equipment and setting can make music come alive like no others, IMO. The 120ti have top notch coned speakers. Sorry, don't know much about Pioneer.

JBL is a speaker manufacturer - Pioneer makes everything, not all of it too well.

If it's just between those two I would go JBL. They have what was called back in the day a "west Coast" sound compared to New England based brands.

JBL's were, at a time, the number one monitors for Studio applications.

I find them a bit in your face and a bit nasal at time BUT speakers are SOO subjective. I would think JBL should be easier to find replacement parts or upgrades if need be.