High end cartridge


I post similar question in other forum, but didn’t get help I need.


I want buy high end cartridge to replace my old one, I have very little experience with cartridges, only entry level of Ortofon, Denon, and Shelter, the last two brands I didn’t like them. So I like ask folks here who have great experience with cartridges, and with VPI FB Gimbal tonearm.

 

I’m concern very much about SQ differentials, I like full body sound, live, punch, authority, and neutral. My first choice will be Ortofon Cadenza black, but before go for it, I want check other brands for better alternative.

 

I see many people go for Lyra or Dynavector, I’m aware they are high end, but I have doubt the sound charastric of these cartridges not close to what I want, but more similar to Denon, and Shelter.

 

I wonder if my assumptions are correct?

 

And about Soundsmith, Benz, Van Den Hul, how good are these? And compare to Ortofon?

 

And will be other brands worth to check?

 

Thanks to all.

knight7m

Pricey but the most revealing pair I’ve heard: Tri Planar + VDH. I listen to trio and quartet jazz.

Mijostyn, while I don't disagree with much of what you said, I was surprised at your attack on the character of Soundsmith.  I have never heard their cartridges, but it only took a few seconds on their web page to find multiple reasons to believe that the 2 cartridges you mention differ by more than a bit of wire.  If you have some inside knowledge that their advertising is false or had a bad experience with them, please let us know.  If you've heard both cartridges, please tell us how they sounded to you.  It's clear you prefer HO cartridges, but singling out Soundsmith on that score seems rather arbitrary.  Our entire hobby often seems to be willing to spend more and more on less and less improvement, but that's not at all the same thing as saying that a specific manufacturer is intentionally ripping people off.

My opinion,
you can’t go wrong with a kiseki Purple Heart. I have one on my VPI prime signature with a 10“ gimbal fat boy tone arm.  Approx $2800

You know what they say about opinions 😂

 

MM cartridges are:

- provide higher output voltage hence have a better S/N ratio.

- Need less sophisticated and hence cheaper phono amplifiers.

- Styli are user changeable.

- Punchier in the bass frequencies.

Nagaoka MP500 for example is superb...  As well as Ortofon Black and Goldrings.

@petaluman , that was not an attack at all. I asked Peter Ledermann that question directly and that was the answer he gave me. He is doing what any smart business man is going to do. As for the Voice and the Sussurro they are the exact same cartridge with the exception of the coils. Same stylus, same cantilever, same body (different color) and same magnets. One is priced to compete with moving coils, the other with moving magnets. The Voice is still very expensive for a moving magnet cartridge and justifiably so as it out performs them all. I should know. I have one.