Ultrasonic LP Cleaning vs. “Thread Type” Cleaning (Keith Monks/Loricraft/etc.)


Many dealers now tout ultrasonic record cleaners as the ultimate, yet companies like Loricraft and Keith Monks continue to introduce new “thread type” (or “string”) record cleaners.

There was a recent discussion in one of Michael Fremer’s on-line columns (https://www.analogplanet.com/content/sme-loricraft-introduces-upgraded-thread-type-vacuum-record-cle...) announcing a new thread type record cleaner from Loricraft. In the comments section, several owners of thread type cleaners praised them and one person stated a “thread type”was better than their own ultrasonic cleaner.

I’m interested in hearing from those of you who have experience with BOTH types of record cleaners, and what you perceive to be the pluses and minuses of each.

As for myself, I’ve been plodding along for years with a VPI 16, and I would like something that is faster to use and that will run for more than an hour without overheating. 😎
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1+ thumbs up @orthomead. I would also add that for something that may be long or more heavily contaminated, I prefer the manual or mechanical clean first anyway to get the heavy grunge out; after vacuum and rinse vacuum, then into ultrasonic for what I find is a more fine cleaning. Sometimes, on a few challenged records, it was repeating this process, with a final rinse of pure water and vacuum after ultrasonic. 
I brought a couple early UK Vertigo Swirls from send 'em back to go to copies simply by this process. And several other records that had wispy tracing distortion that I was able to eliminate through combined cleaning methods. 
Anyone hear about the newest KM Prodigy "Blue" that is being released soon? From a dealer heard it's supposed to be a few big steps ahead of the original. 
@Orthomead: I first learned about Swirl due to Sabbath and have them as UK Swirls, but then descended into the vortex:
Gracious!, the Cressida albums, Patto, May Blitz, etc.

I think I have roughly 50, some duplicates, not all the super rare ones but not all of the catalog was equal in terms of music quality. Pressing quality in the era was good though and the engineering was straightforward.
Interestingly, the guy who was really responsible for launching the imprint-- Olav Wyper-- left Philips after a year or so to go to RCA. That is why I recommend the 1970 Annual as a Vertigo starter kit- 2 LPs from some of the more recherché acts. Affinity and a few others, the names of which escape me right now, were part of the catalog. And it doesn't command the price of some of the Swirls, it's almost reasonable!
One curiosity is that King Crimson’s In the Court was released as a Swirl back in the day in NZ or AUS. Never saw one in the wild. (UK release was Island Pink Label).
Thanks @orthomead and @whart.

When I ordered the Vinyl Stack Spinner, I inquired as to whether or not they had any of the single-disc models left. That model was simply two of the Vinyl Stack "platters" with a handle attached, designed for pre-cleaning a single LP with, say, a sink’s water faucet (or @shaw’s steamer method). The answer was no.

So I embarked on a search for a similar product, and eventually found it on ebay. It is just about identical to the Vinyl Stack single-LP model: a pair of plastic plates (clear to the Vinyl Stack’s frosted white) just large enough to cover the LP label, with a rubber sealing ring on each to prevent water from seeping in, and a handle on one side. $18.99 plus $2.99 shipping from China.

I got the above product to facilitate washing dirty pre-owned LP’s, rather than putting them on the HW-17 prior to ultrasonically cleaning. For new LP’s, unless they exhibit obvious "dirt" (which is unfortunately not THAT uncommon, found even on the new All Things Must Pass boxset) I will skip that step.

I have my HW-17’s tank loaded with distilled water for final rinsing, and after two revolutions of drying the LP is ready for a treatment of Last Record Preservative. I have procured a bottle of Tergitol 15-S-9 surfactant for my ultrasonic bath mixture, needing only some isopropyl alcohol to complete it.

While I’m here, I must thank Bill (@whart) for publishing on his website that incredible dissertation on ultrasonic cleaning of LP’s, which I need to again read! Bill often mentions the Vertigo "swirl label" LP’s, and I can add one more Vertigo title to his list of recommendations: Chapter Three by Manfred Mann. Though remembered for their early "British Invasion" hits ("Do Wah Diddy Diddy", "Pretty "Flamingo"), and later their excellent take on Dylan’s "The Mighty Quinn", by the time of 1969’s Chapter Three they had evolved into a Rock/Jazz Fusion band, and a good one. Interesting music (I say that as a non-fan of Fusion), great sonic quality.