What DAC upgrade made you say “DAMN, that sounds SO MUCH better than my last DAC”?


As the title suggests, what was your overall system and DAC at the point where you bought only a new DAC and said “DAMN, that sounds SO MUCH better than my last DAC”?

I’m a novice and so many people talk about improvements from new equipment as if they were only listening to varying degrees of static until they bought more and more new equipment which added up to them finally being presented with music. It’s like Salome and the seven veils. But when does the last veil get peeled away? 

So what system did you have and what DAC did you swap in that made you say “DAMN!!!!”?

I guess I’m looking for night and day differences, not gradual progressions……


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I have about $10k’s worth of components in my system. After getting everything else up and running on the performance levels I was looking for, I turned to the last piece of the puzzle, the DAC. I’d been rather happy with an EVS-modified Oppo 103 for some yrs, but wanted to see if I could do better.

Started with a Denifrips Pontus (original version). Liked it ok, except that low-level detail seemed a little reticent and I recall just not being able to get sufficient tonal color out of the thing. It sorta did that "live" sound thing pretty well, which may be the thing these days in Southeast Asia, I’m supposing, but I was intentionally looking for color and hopefully without the attendant "veil" that can come with it (as is sometimes the case with McInntosh gear). Sold it after a few months.

Next up, I tried a Berkely Audio Design, Alpha V2 DAC. Although I ended up passing on this DAC as well, this did indeed have STUNNING amounts of color - just glorious - and by such a huge margin it wasn’t even funny. Almost TOO much color - something I didn’t think would be possible. A rather nice, if tightly defined, sound field, as well. Although resolution was quite good, where it really ended up letting me down was in the bass, particularly the midbass and low end. It just...well..sat there, like a bump on a log. The bass seemed strong enough and grippy, but inspite of threatening the get up and boogie at some point, it just never actually got around to it - it just refused to **move**. Me being a bass fan, that was deal breaker. I sold it after a year. A heartbreaking farewell, as I recall.

Next, on a tip from a friend in the pro industry, I tried my current DAC, a Burl Audio B2 Bomber DAC. This one is made in Calif. by the pro’s for the pro’s. It is what’s known as a "monitoring DAC". That is, it’s intentionally designed to neither gussy anything up about the sound or presentation, or sweep anything under the rug, so that a pro can accurately track the mix down process. It just so happens that this DAC is gloriously musical at the same time. And tonal color happened to be spot on across the range, not just ’here or there’. Gobs of transparency. In this DAC, there are No capacitors in the signal path - very unusual. So the bass is extremely extended, but also very o-p-e-n - the dead opposite of the prior DAC. And complete realism across the board...and with magic, soul, space and all that good stuff...

I’ve been gobsmacked with this DAC for more than a year now. The B2 is Never going Anywhere from here. If it should ever die, I’ll just get another one(!). Very much night and day for me on this DAC.
"I have about $10k’s worth of components in my system".
So somehow this makes you qualified to write DAC reviews? So it seems? None of us have any frame of reference!

DAC’s are like ears everyone has at least one. I still have my old MSB Nelson DAC from the 90's, it actually sounds really good still. 
Ha, sorry if you have no frame of reference, I decided to give mine so you'd know what mine was. 

Last time I checked, this forum was open to everybody...
“I guess I’m looking for night and day differences, not gradual progressions……”

OP, it would be helpful to know your current system and budget for DAC. Every system is different, you’re probably not going to buy Berkely Audio Design, Alpha V2 DAC to pair with Node 2i :-)
One suggestion is to focus on all parts of the digital signal path instead of just the DAC. You can get audible improvements from each of these changes that adds up. I’ve heard clear and immediate improvements from:

1. Switching to a streamer from a PC laptop or iPhone
2. Switching from WiFi to an Ethernet connection to the streamer
3. Going to a Supra Cat 8 Ethernet cable from an AmazonBasics Cat 6 cable
4. Listening to local files versus streamed files via Qobuz

Other changes that made a noticeable difference though smaller than the effect from the changes listed above:

5. Power cable on my DAC
6. USB cable between my streamer and DAC
7. Audioquest Jitterbug noise filter between my streamer and the USB cable

These are the DACs I’ve listened to in the past year in my system unless otherwise noted:

  • Audioquest Dragonfly Red
  • Rega DAC
  • Denafrips Ares II
  • Simaudio Moon 280D (at a dealer)
  • Chord Qutest
  • Denafrips Pontus II
  • Chord Hugo TT / MScaler (at a dealer)

They all sound different. The ones I would not want in my system are the Rega DAC, Simaudio Moon 280D and the Chord Hugo TT / MScaler. The Pontus II sounds best to me in my system.