Upscale Audio and Primaluna


spoke to aggresive salesperson who pushed prima luna integrated amps and other primaluna gear.

this was after i called to buy another component.  Anyone know about primaluna stuff.

all this guy did was tear into my system saying how deficient it is and that i should buy primaluna.


jumia
@hudo
What I wrote (in full) was:"A couple of people have pointed out that the Prima Luna amps are made by Cayin/Spark but did not mention that Cayin/Spark is owned by the Chinese government as part of the large CATIC group. Quite simply, every dollar of profit from your purchase of a Cayin amp goes directly to a government that runs vast re-education camps, oppresses dissent in Xianjiang, Tibet and Hong Kong and promotes the use of slave and forced labor in the country’s workforce."
My point was that Cayin equipment is made by the Chinese GOVERNMENT (not private individuals), which uses the money for repression both at home and abroad and also, unquestionably uses forced or slave labor. It is a bit of a myth that everything is made in China these days-plenty of cell phones like Samsung are made entirely in Korea for instance. In any case, all things being equal, I think most of us here would rather not give our money to the Chinese government when there are plenty of good alternatives,both within and outside of the PRC.
In this regard, it should be mentioned that Prima Luna products are also manufactured in Chinese government factories but is itself a western owned private concern. Prima Luna, to its credit, has been completely transparent about this, unlike some "European" companies that largely manufacture in China but obscure the fact. These are things are generally not discussed in publications like Stereophile or Absolute Sound, making audio focused websites like this often the only source of information.
I've bought from Upscale several times, VPI table, Hana cartridge, Sutherland phono pre, and Pro-Ject record vacuum. Hell, just noticed I'm wearing their t-shirt! Each piece first rate, and I'm collecting and listening to albums like I did 40 years ago... but much, much better sound. Don't own any PL,  confess to irritation by Kevin's Audio Research shade, but I buy my 6H30s from him which I believe makes him complicit..
I’ve made 4 purchases from Upscale. They can be a little pushy at times, but found them to be congenial. Even Kevin, who started grating on my nerves after 2 minutes, but kept conversing with him and found his grating comes from his passion.
I have a PL EVO 300 preamp that I bought from Upscale at the end of our conversation, and I love it.
I am new to these forums and have read these posts with interest. My experience with Upscale has been delightful. I have had the on/off relationship with high end audio since I heard Maggies back 40 years ago. This go around ,I purchased PrimaLuna and retubed both the preamp and amp to sync with my system.( No maggies to drive) One damaged Brimar NOS arrived after being delayed in a winter storm. Upscale packs and ships tubes carefully and delivers quickly with priority mail ,however the storms almost  1 week delay brought a wet mess to my doorstep. They ,without any documentation other than my word, issued me a gift certificate for twice the value of the damaged tube. Never any pressure to purchase the PL , however I wanted a valve based system before my ears followed my legs to the ravages of age. There is human variability within every experience. Mine was most enjoyable. Be well... 
@musikcrayz hard to believe you're been listening for 40 years and now this yr joined Agon and this is your 1st post! Just trolling? Just saying.