The Truth About Power Cords and there "Real" Price to Performance


This is a journey through real life experiences from you to everyone that cares to educate themselves. I must admit that I was not a believer in power cords and how they affect sound in your system. I from the camp that believed that the speaker provided 75% of the sound signature then your source then components but never the power cord. Until that magic day I along with another highly acclaimed AudioGoner who I will keep anatomist ran through a few cables in quite a few different systems and was "WOWED" at what I heard. That being said cable I know that I am not the only believer and that is why there are so many power cord/cable companies out there that range from $50 to 20-30 thousand dollars and above. So I like most of you have to scratch my head and ask where do I begin what brand and product and what should i really pay for it?

The purpose of this discussion to get some honest feed back on Price to Performance from you the end user to us here in the community.

Please fire away!


 


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WRT:
the amp + speaker combination will affect the sound as the cable capacitance gradually changes. It’s not something that happens abruptly, like a 90 degree cliff.
Well, there is always the exception to "the Norm" - I know a guy that fried his Ayre amp and then fried a Gryphon integrated amp loaned to him - almost as soon as he turned each of them on.

The first failure he put down to simple component failure, but when the second amp fried very quickly after power on he suspected something else was the cause - I believed it to be his TOTL Cardas speaker cables which had a very high capacitance.

Since his system had worked prior to this event, we looked at what had changed.
He had just upgraded the power cable on the amp, so we believed the Ayre had probably been teetering on the brink of severe oscillation for a long time - then he upgraded the power cable and Ka-Boooom!

I believe the Gryphon fried almost as soon as he turned it on using the same cables.

We surmised the "improved performance" of that power cable was likely "the last straw" for both amps.

When we got the Gryphon back I loaned him some low capacitance speaker cables and all was well - but what surprised me is, the technician had never heard of this issue.

High capacitance cables are only an issue with some high current solid state designs - I am told by many sources that tube amps DO NOT suffer the same problem.

I have heard high capacitance cables might be preferable with certain amp/speaker combinations, but I have no experience of that.

But this is something audiophiles with solid state amps should be aware of.

I avoid high capacitance speaker cables for use with all my amps - just to be safe :-)

Regards - Steve




Well, there is always the exception to "the Norm"
Actually it's always analog.  What you interpret as "abrupt" or "sudden" or "just like that", in the analog world, there is always some "transitional curve".  The "transitional curve" may not be able to be "recorded" or "captured" by our perception or our ability since our brain cannot capture things like the oscilloscope can, but it's there.   

In order to have "just like that" in the real world, the energy required is "infinite".  Like a step response, on paper, it's abrupt.  But in the real world, there is no such thing as a "step response" since it would require "infinite" amount of energy.  


   "....if there are no specific values for inductance/capacitance, then how do you know you were comparing cables with higher/lower values? "

atdavid,

I always buy speaker cable in bulk and terminate them myself. I use mfg's published data and, if they don't provide it, I ask. Below are several examples that I've used....

Kimber 8TC:       Ls = 0.09uH/m
Mogami W3104: Ls = 0.6uH/m 
"....The first failure he put down to simple component failure, but when the second amp fried very quickly after power on he suspected something else was the cause - I believed it to be his TOTL Cardas speaker cables which had a very high capacitance...."

Goertz ribbon speaker cables also have high-capacitance that can be problematic to the degree that they offer a 'R/C Link' to combat amplifier instability issues. The R/C Link (aka, Zobel Network) is a resistor in series with a capacitor that is placed across the amplifier output to keep the demons at bay.