Two Type of sound and listener preference are there more?


In our thirty years of professional audio system design and setup, we keep on running into two distinctly different types of sound and listeners.

Type One: Detail, clarity, soundstage, the high resolution/accuracy camp. People who fall into this camp are trying to reproduce the absolute sound and use live music as their guide.

Type Two: Musicality camp, who favors tone and listenability over the high resolution camp. Dynamics, spl capabilty, soundstaging are less important. The ability for a system to sound real is less important than the overall sound reproduced "sounds good."

Are there more then this as two distincly different camps?

We favor the real is good and not real is not good philosophy.

Some people who talk about Musicaility complain when a sytem sounds bright with bright music.

In our viewpoint if for example you go to a Wedding with a Live band full of brass instruments like horns, trumpts etc it hurts your ears, shouldn’t you want your system to sound like a mirror of what is really there? Isn’t the idea to bring you back to the recording itself?

Please discuss, you can cite examples of products or systems but keep to the topic of sound and nothing else.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
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There are two types of people in this world, those that divided the world into two types of people and those who don't.  As others have pointed out, it's far more complex and nuanced.
Type One: Detail, clarity, soundstage, the high resolution/accuracy camp. People who fall into this camp are trying to reproduce the absolute sound and use live music as their guide.
High resolution and accuracy should be a path to excellent tone.  We are all at the mercy of the recording, but a cello should sound like a cello.
Type Two: Musicality camp, who favors tone and listenability over the high resolution camp. Dynamics, spl capabilty, soundstaging are less important. The ability for a system to sound real is less important than the overall sound reproduced "sounds good."
Musicality and high resolution are not mutually exclusive.  I believe most experienced audiophile seek the high resolution coupled with long-term listenability.  In blunt terms, many audiophile oriented systems have too much treble when compared to live, unamplified music.

Finally, there's a common sense consideration.  Does it really make sense to spend tens of thousands of dollars putting together a system that only sounds "good" on a limited number of recordings and makes most of the music you like sound crummy?   Again, we are at the mercy of the recording.
Broadly speaking Dave is absolutely right.

Some people like the real thing and getting as close as possible to that - true high fidelity.

Others don’t care so much about accuracy - they want their system to enhance the sound with musicality (musicality being their preferred presentation). This is not high fidelity but it is immensely enjoyable and fun - a bit like cooking to your own tastes rather then strictly following a recipe.
Ultimately what are we trying to achieve. Sound that is engaging, clean, clear, nothing harsh that hurts our ears? Two or three guys sitting around a campfire at night with acoustic guitars and a Cajon singing is as real as it gets. Trying to record that moment and mix it and replay that through an amplified system can never be exactly the same. IE your position to the live music, backround noise, mics, recording equip, ect. I am an audio engineer and mix live music. I ultimately change the way people will hear the musicians. Every event has its own acoustic challenges. I use my ears to accomplish this. I add and subtract different frequencies to make it sound as close to how I think it should sound using my lifelong experience as an avid audiophile. A different engineer will make it sound different because of his preferences. My point is that what we try to achieve in our home systems is very personal. I have spent a lot of money on my home system just because of my love of music. Every piece of equipment adds or subtracts some color in the experience. There is no right or wrong. Our brains perceive things differently. I can be from both camps depending on the music and situation. We are all unique with different ears and brains so its allot more complicated than that. Is there audio nirvana? I think I will only experience this in heaven.
I have long been fascinated by live vs reproduced sound. I have raw recordings I’ve made of myself playing acoustic guitar, my son practicing saxophone, family members voices etc, and I’ve used those to do direct live vs reproduced comparisons with many speakers I’ve owned. It’s been fascinated to find my acoustic memory is better than I’d guess: those speakers that, when I first hear them at a store, show etc stroke me as “getting it right” have indeed been the ones that hold up best in the direct comparisons of recorded voice/instruments vs the real thing.

Its amazing how well some speakers have reproduced the sound of my guitar and the impression of it being played in the room.  

The freakiest one is the recorded my pf
my young son practicing sax.   When played through my current Thiel speakers or through my MBLs from just outside the room you woulld swear someone was in there playing a sax, and I’ve filled a few people with it.
"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"…a quote attributed to more than one author, but could be applied to writing about audio. Any system sounds right when you decide that for yourself. I am professionally involved in live music, have been for over 50 years as a working musician and live sound technician, and I would never claim to know what sounds right for anybody, except that my taste is imposed on people attending the concerts I mix, and that's with the artists approval (sound check is important as I want the artist to be very happy). It's frustrating enough just to get friend's to care at all about good sounding home audio, and consequently I don't really try too hard to get anybody to care. Note that recordings aren't live (unless you rent Carnegie hall to listen to your rig, it's simply not the same), and that's fine as long as said recordings sound good to YOU…I suggest to people who actually do care about home sound to simply change things until you get it to fit your tastes…works for me.