I too am a firm believer in cables. I have a very revealing system to begin with and for me it’s easy to hear good and bad or improvements within my system. First off I had for many years all Shunyata Sigma HC and Digital PCs for my sources and King Cobras for my 2 mono amps. First swap was the Shunyata Sigma digital for my cdp to the Audio Quest Dragon Source pc to my CDP. What a very huge difference. Especially the all black background. Totally changed the sound for the better. I really was amazed by the quality of the music. And Shunyata ain’t no slouch when it comes to quality cables. Next was the preamp AQ Dragon source And then my mono blocks to all AQ HC Dragons. All with great dramatic improvements in MY system. I do believe if your system ain’t up to par or don’t have a revealing system u will not notice a difference.
Yes, cables do make a difference -- regardless of price...
I thought you may find this interesting…or not. I know, another "cable post". Disclaimer up front — I am a believer that cables can make a difference in the sound that you hear from your system. With my speakers, like most high(er) efficiency speakers, I can hear large and small changes made to the system components — and cables are part of that system.
What I want to share is an exercise that I went through with my better half in setting up her recording equipment that she will be using to record audio books. The hardware part of the system is simple: Audio Technica Cardioid Condenser Microphone AT2035 connected with a XLR cable to the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 preamp.
We started with the XLR cable that came with the microphone and recorded the short introduction of the book she has been contracted to record. Then she recorded the same section using each of the our XLR cables I have on hand: Vovox Excelsus, Mogami 2549, Gotham GAC-3, and Grimm TPR. Each of the cables have the same Neutrik connector and are very good studio cables that I have used in my system at one time.
Listening through headphones via the Scarlett 2i2, it was super easy to hear distinct differences in these cables. The differences were not small and very apparent. In the end, the Mogami cable was the winner — it seemed more open and warmer than the other cables and suited the tone of her voice the best. I have heard similar differences from these cables in my stereo system but not to the significant degree borne out by this exercise.
To keep going, today I replaced the $10 USB C to C cable that I bought as an “upgrade” from the Scarlett 2i2 to a MacBook Air with a $70 Audioquest Forest cable. We were more than surprised that with the AQ cable in the system the drop of the noise floor was very significant and the blackness of background made the sound even more crystal clear.
The purpose of this post is not to promote or compares cables, just a public service posting for those of you who do not believe cables make a difference. They really do affect how your system sounds (positive or negative) and if you cannot hear a difference then maybe looking at the transparency of your system is a place you should examine.
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My audio system has been elevated to an extraordinary level of performance, thanks to the integration of Sound Lab A645 panels, Atma-Sphere amplification (MA-1 & MP-1), and an Abbas DAC. The transformation was significantly propelled forward by the introduction of bespoke cables and a power regulation device crafted by Mr. Hai, a Parisian innovator who designs these components exclusively for friends and family. Given his background as an engineer with France's leading telecommunications company, it's only a matter of time before Mr. Hai becomes a household name among discerning audiophiles. The clarity and detail my system now reveals are nothing short of astonishing. Mr. Hai's cables utilize a type of wire typically reserved for aerospace applications, which is difficult to procure. After rigorous testing, we determined that ETI connectors deliver the most authentic sound. Remarkably, each wire within the cable is air-insulated, enhancing its performance. The power regulation device incorporates a novel, patent-pending design that has significantly purified the power supply to my system. Through extensive experimentation and fine-tuning with Mr. Hai, we identified the optimal cable configuration, leading to a profound enhancement in sound quality. The impact on my system was so dramatic that I remain in awe. The Sound Lab panels, in particular, now produce a bass response so deep and powerful that it physically resonates through the room, surpassing the manufacturer's specifications by reaching frequencies below 28Hz. The realism of thunder through these speakers is startling, and the reproduction of piano reverberation is indistinguishable from a live performance. Atma-Sphere's electronics, known for their precision, naturalness, and dynamism, are now fully realized when paired with these ESL panels and Mr. Hai's cables. This experience has fundamentally changed my perspective on the critical role of cables in a high-fidelity audio system. Through our collaborative efforts, we've distilled several key insights: 1. Consistency in cable technology throughout the system is crucial. Don’t mix different cables & technologies! 2. Power regulation is paramount, arguably more so than any other system optimization. 3. The intrinsic design of a cable, rather than its shielding, is the most critical factor for sound quality. 4. The quality of connectors cannot be overstated; ETI connectors have proven to be superior to any other we tested. 5. The most expensive cable is not necessarily the best choice for your system. 6. XLR design significantly outperform unbalanced 7. Silver-plated copper cables offer superior sound quality compared to pure silver cables. These insights are invaluable for any DIY enthusiast looking to elevate their audio system. The journey with Mr. Hai has not only transformed my system but also deepened my understanding and appreciation of the intricate relationship between components, cables, and power in crafting an unparalleled listening experience.
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No, @laoman , OP did not do a controlled A/B test (based on OP’s wording). He and his better half were probably role playing, and someone might have played the horse: read up on Clever Hans - it’ll be a shortcut to understanding how pervasive and subtle bias can be via the simplest of cues, and has been widely acknowledged for roughly a century. Doesn’t mean the differences assumed (between cables) were necessarily absent, it just means they’re being assumed without verifying something besides bias. Bias as a word is similar to “theory” - many folks don’t understand what it actually is or how it applies in science, so as a word it often “lands” on ears/eyes differently than it probably should. @soix funny aside - “flat earther” denotes someone who disregards all scientific evidence for the earth in fact being spherical, while demanding no scientific evidence to support the belief earth is flat. In the absence of empirical evidence for cables differing audibly (be it either measurements or rigorous preference studies), I think you might not be using that phrasal poke as deftly as you seem to assume? 😅 Studies are easy to do; they’re quite complicated to do correctly without proper understanding of the discipline(s) involved. Conversely, it seems surprisingly natural for folks to state anecdotal perception as broadly applicable fact. It’s a conundrum that extends well beyond unverified perceptions in home audio. Sigh. The baseline purpose of making comparisons (the cable swapping exercise) that gave rise to this thread was: get good sound for recording audio books. It seems like that end was achieved, so it’s not of consequence that the road travelled was not an experimentally valid one. I’m glad the recordings worked out well and don’t see that as grounds for fussing over anything. 😁
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