Who positions their speakers straight ahead (zero tow in) and why.


I’ve been experimenting with toe in and tweeter position (inside v. outside) for my LRS and ProAC Studio 3 speakers. My listening position is about 8.5 feet from the speakers front surface.

In both cases I ended up with tweeters on the inside and zero toe in. I like the more immersive soundstage I get with zero toe in. I sacrifice a little of the lock in for the center image.

Zero toe in also makes my sweet spot for listening a little wider.

Sorry about the incorrect spelling and the missing question mark in the subject. I couldn’t edit the subject.

g2the2nd

@immatthewj ...a ’hot tweeter’, hmmmm.....

Is either REALLLY BRIGHT or on the verge of cooking it’s voice coil.....

The first is easy to cure, eq, xover...

The second?
What do you smell?

Been there, did just that, you will get p*ssed....

Not the 1st, certainly not the last by anything I've read here at some time or 'nother... ;)  How much to fix?

🤷‍♂️ 

(I can be a clueless as the next...)

About two years go I made an angling and placement jig for my Cornwall 4’s. The jig is screwed to both the wooden floor and to the plinths of the Cornwalls with  small hinges. The speakers are always the same in relation to the back wall since the pivot points are fixed and identical. By measuring the distance between the back walls and the leading speaker edge which can be swung to and fro both speakers can be infinitely angled and perfectly and repeatedly plane-matched in unison to the room without any fuss at all. The jig also allows the distance between the speakers to be easily adjusted without affecting the angles.

This precise and easily adjusted set up was a revelation as to the subtleties of speaker placement. As little as one degree of adjustment can be indubitably heard.

I do not for two reasons-

1) I like a big i-max like sound stage and space my speakers wide a'la Audio Note and then aim them inward to fill in the sound stage.  

2) My current speakers are a bit softer sounding and like to be aimed so you can see some of the inside cabinet walls.  

I have done it in the past with a more narrow spacing and speakers that sounded best with no toe in.- e.g. a wide dispersion point source speaker.  

I have heard it done w1th success at dealers and shows- mainly when:

1) Narrow room 

2) Speakers sound best with zero toe angle in terms of frequency balance, sound stage and imaging.  Not all speakers do.  

Is either REALLLY BRIGHT or on the verge of cooking it’s voice coil.....

@asvjerry , I am thinking it is the first, as I cannot see toe in mitigating the second.  Thank you for helping me out with that--"hot tweeter" was one (of many) I was not familiar with.

Yeah, @immatthewj ....the second is generally due to 'overappreciation' of what's queued up and toe-whatever is the least concern in mind.... ;)

However, since it was one of my diy's, the repair shop is very conveniently located...it's the guy at the bench one can issues with, but friendly most of the time....*L*

Have a good weekend, J