Hey Nick!
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Yep, in terms of placement from the ‘front’ wall, the Treo’s are about the same as the 2CE’s. Jim kept getting trying to get me to move them closer to the wall, I tried, but lost all center imaging when I did so. Moved them out into the room more like the 2CE’s and center imaging came right back. Only tells ya that all rooms are different. I discussed this on the Vandy forum and Richard Vandersteen agreed, once you find the correct speaker placement within a room, the general ‘sweet spot’ rarely changes regardless of the speaker (Maggie’s might be the exception). |
I recently experienced a similar situation at my music friend’s house. He bought a pair of Dirty Weekends and has placed them in a very compromised room. They are very close together as well. After raising them up and tilting them up in front significantly, these speakers disappear. They just aren’t "all that" in terms of high fidelity. Hence their name? |
It’s interesting Steve, but I actually mover them even closer together, (probably closer to 3~4” vs 2), yet, the overall stage has became wider and provided a better overall stage. Yea, I kept wanting to spread them wider apart too….but….every room is different and constraints within every room can be too, especially as my listening room is a living room. Thus, I’m not sure there is only one way to accomplish the same thing, depending. I know Jonny R at Audio Connection spreads ‘his’ Vandersteen’s very wide apart,(and suggested I do the same as well), extremely wide apart actually, but, problem is, I cannot do that in my room. Thus my solution to accomplish a better stage is actually the reverse. I guess if the issue can be resolved either way, that’s most important. Just listening to the differences and improvement is the key. I’ve moved the Treo’s, (and the 2CE’s prior), around a lot over time, but would say the variables are 6” total, max. At the end of the day, the room tells you what sounds best. |
I know what you mean Brian. Same with my system through the years. All my room treatments were compared in a variety of configurations based on listening. When I’’ve looked at your system page, I thought the speakers seemed too close together. Then, I didn’t know if it was an aesthetic compromise but I’ve never heard those speakers either. |
Tweaking my speaker placement today. I’ve been feeling like the soundstage wasn’t going beyond the outer edges of the speakers themselves enough, and too much between. Decreased the overall spread between about 2”. Then readjusted for equal level. Much better now. Never ceases to Amaze how such small changes can make such a big impact on the overall stage in filling the room more naturally, wider, and making the speakers ‘disappear’. |
I don’t usually mix genres during a day, but need some classical in my ears for a bit 😉 Opening up my 2nd unusual Korean box set of ‘The Great Classical Music of The World’ series today. Jupiter box No. 12 Karl Böhm conducts Mozart - Flute Concerto No. 1 in G major, K. 313 & Concerto for Flute, Harp, and Orchestra in C major, K. 299. Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra w/Werner Tripp, flute / Wolfgang Schultz, flute / Nicanor Zabaleta, harp. Deutsche Grammophon
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@bkeske if you can find the white (Vol 1) Tom Petty box set it is well worth it. I have all of them as an original pressing and picked up the box and they did a great job on the remastering and the vinyl is very very good. The Damn the Torpedoes from the box kills my O/P |
I wish you a full and speedy recovery @j_husker . |
I do a lot of napping lately, and it is difficult to get out of my listening chair every 20 minutes or so to flip the disc. The new Eye in the Sky 45rpm Mofi showed up Thursday, but I've only managed to get through disc 1 so far. I'll finish that one shortly and then on deck: Steely Dan-The Royal Scam 1976 ABC |
@sbank thanks a bunch, Sir It is a pretty phenomenal combo with the 12" Tonearm. Everything pairs up extremely well. Really happy so far and worth the delta between this and my last table |
@6t5-gto congrats, lovely table and fantastic cartridge! @mammothguy54 Joel, the "Buildings/Food" remaster is worthwhile IMHO |
These nights are becoming few and far between. Streaming mostly but every now and then, when time (and energy) permits,... so have a son living in LA who's in the music business. Last time I was out there he turned me on to Cali Creamin' a blond beer by Mother Earth Brewery with hints of vanilla - it's just fantastic. Anyway, picked up a couple sixers when he was home after a show in NYC earlier this month. Did a deep dive into the remaining few last night while sorting my LP selections. Stated off with My Morning Jacket "It Still Moves" very nice then slipped into Reed Foehl, "Once An Ocean" can't remember where or when I bought this, but it's thoroughly enjoyable and another terrific lesser known Boston artist. Finished in the way back machine with The Stones "Sticky Fingers" - Moonlight Mile, favorite Stones tune! |
