What is the missing element?


My pc audio setup currently is as follows

PC (Lossless audio through Jriver) > V-link (first model) > Rega Dac > Jolida JD1501 > KEF LS50s

The Rega was probably the first component I bought that completely transformed the sound of my system. The difference it made was simply huge.

I then added the v-link to support higher resolution audio through the s/pdif connection. Again, the sound noticeably improved. The soundstage was bigger, and the music just sounded fuller. Without the v-link the music sounds quite a bit smaller through the usb input.

The Kefs were the next big leap forward for my system. I simply cant believe how big a sound these tiny little speakers put out.

Now, originally most of my listening was through the setup listed above. However, the addition of a thorens TD-160 has gotten me into vinyl in a big way and now I really don't like the sound of digital. By comparison it sounds like congested chaos, has a rough texture (especially noticeable in voices)and overall is just very brash sounding. I simply can not stand it at loud volumes. Nothing like the polite orderly smoothness I hear on vinyl which constantly has me turning up the volume.

I had all but completely switched to listening to music on my turntable while the rega was relegated to streaming pandora or youtube as background music and always at low volumes. Then, some time spent with a naim cd player reminded me just how good a digital source can sound. So my question is how can I bridge the gap? I have been reading a lot about jitter and I am wondering if that is holding the rega back. I've read that the v-link measures at right around 400ps while other digital transports like the audiophilleo measure well below 100ps. Would replacing the v-link with an audiophilleo or another s/pdif converter give me the sound I am looking for? Is the problem with the nature of computer audio itself and I should just be looking for a good CD player? I am slowly driving myself crazy over this.
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Charles - you can get the Off-Ramp 5 as well (as the Dynamo power supply to power it) for 30 days, money-back, less shipping. It will crush any PCI card.

Does the PCI card have money-back guarantee?

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
Cerrot,

"My arguments don't hold water? But, yet, you have been unable to dispute me."

Don't take this the wrong way, but are you trying to win an argument or get better sound? To me it looks like you are trying to win an argument.
Ok so this is interesting. My v-link that I had been using just up and died on me. So for the time being, I just plugged the dac directly into the usb port and to my surprise, in some ways it actually sounds better. Overall the sound is smaller and less dynamic and the imaging feels smaller BUT the voices are smoother and better separated from the music which sort of falls back into the background. Overall I would say the sound is less congested. Now I was poking around behind my tower today and noticed I actually have a s/pdif out on my motherboard. I know its not ideal but for fun I plugged into it. The difference between the s/pdif and usb are very subtle. Audibly they sound almost identical. The most noticeable difference I would say is the pacing. The s/pdif sounds a bit quicker? I think? As I said, its subtle. The upside is I can play my high res files again.

So here is my question, and this is primarily directed towards Steve. I noticed the synchro-mesh on your site. So re-clocking the digital signal from the s/pif vs a usb converter, would there be an advantage to one over the other?
Do you really need a money back guarantee for a $140 sound card? We spend more than that on a fuse.
Steve, do you think there is a sonic advantage to using the Offramp 5 with a high end dac like the Lampizator? I use my 2009 mini USB to the Lampi USB input. The Lampi also has an RCA input in addition to the USB.

Thanks
"So re-clocking the digital signal from the S/PDIF vs a USB converter, would there be an advantage to one over the other?"

Yes. Both are establishing a new Master Clock, but the reclocker must resample the data. There are minor artifacts with doing this. Even the best resampling hardware is not perfect. The USB interface on the other hand does not resample. It does not change the data at all, making it superior with better SQ.

Both are excellent however, particularly when powered from my new Dynamo power supply. The difference is actually small.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
Granny - I actually already have customers using the OR5 with the Lampzator, as well as many other USB DACs, including EMM Labs and AR.

Its a simple matter to order one and try it. If it doesn't make a huge difference then send it back for refund, less shipping.

I would recommend in order to get the full performance from it, order it with my BNC-BNC coax cable with RCA adapters and my Dynamo power supply. At a minimum get the OR5 with S/PDIF Hynes option.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio