Brf it would have been a 10.5 on an Aries 3.
That Classic Records bob Dylan bootleg series reissue tends toward the sibilant side, so the 3D armwand does not remove it completely. It was just slightly more pleasant than the metal 10.5. Also this was on a dealer's setup, not my own. |
@ Andyprice ... thanks for your support. Andy, I checked your system, and I think it's a fine rig. I'm sure it gives you tremendous pleasure and isn't that what our hobby is all about?
Just a general comment or two if I may. By and large, I think most of the Forum contributors are ladies and gentlemen. I have learned a great deal from so many folks. Aside from the pleasure my rig gives me, I find the technical side of our hobby very interesting. I guess I'm a frustrated scientist.
In addition, I am not jealous of anyone else's rig or room. In fact, nothing would give me more pleasure than being invited to a member's sound room and having the time and means to get there to check out how different rigs sound.
Last point, I would never "dis" anyone else's rig. Period. It's incredibly bad form. OTOH, on just one prior occasion, I did report 2 members to the moderators. The two members were using the Forum to make incredibly disparaging personal comments about each other's character. Regrettably, I'm getting close to making another referral. |
I now own one. The uni-pivot "receptacle point" is stainless as are the side weights. Azimuth and VTF are set by the counterweight. Time-consuming set-up!!! This is on a Classic 3. Both profound and awesome. Any other questions? |
Does anyone know whether VPI will take a mint Classic 3 arm in trade for the 3D print arm? And if so, how much the extra charge would be? Oh ... can the SS intuit device be used on the 3D print arm? |
Hi Judy,
I've sampled your postings and, though I too sometimes like to fly the cynicism, I also value sincere dialog. Afterall why hang with a bunch of audio geeks if you really have a life, right? I was simply wondering if there might be more to your approach than meets the eye? Certainly, you have a knack for "stirring the pot" and getting the intended responses. I would appreciate your thoughts on this, perhaps via a few sentences, of course provided your attention span can last that long.
Steve |
****Another dud from the folks at VPI
Yawn****
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Why not spend $4 for a classified ad?
Fair enough?****
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Labyrinth- something extremely tortuous in structure, arrangement, or character
I get it now.****
****Rivaled by Diana Krall as the worst female vocalist of the last 20 years.
Yuk****
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Ouch****
****Good thinking Taters.
A bald huckster and a fat dumpster.
I like it.****
****Awesome.
Another new ARC product that will be discounted 30% on release and sell for 20% of MSRP within 3 years.
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****Yawn...........****
****Read Schubert's posts wynne.
He's clueless.****
****Gosh Peter, I think you're great.
Thanks Bob, I think you're great, too.
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Guess who? Clearly, the life of the party. |
Bifwynne
No problem at all. We have had some discussions in the past and you were always courteous and helpful to me. Like yourself, I am just interested in hearing peoples thoughts and opinions on the VPI 3D arm, which is the original topic of this thread.
I am using a stock classic 1 with the JMW 10.5 classic arm. I did speak to mike @vpi and they were contemplating making a few units for home trail purposes. You had to pay about half of the cost of the new arm up front and get a 2 week trail period for the 3D arm. If you decided it wasn't to your liking, you can ship it back and get a refund less $250.00.
So basically, a $250.00 rental fee for a 2 week in home trail. If you did decide to purchase, you pay the remaining balance and VPI would ship you a brand new production arm upon return of the rental unit.
I wish more audio companies would offer a type of trail period like this. I may try this myself if the offer is still open. I discussed this with VPI when the arm was first announced. It might be worthwhile to call VPI directly and ask them about this. I'm not certain if they will still do this or not. My conversation with them was a few months ago. |
Some companies do offer in-home trial periods. Reno HiFi does with Pass Labs electronics. No rental fee, just shipping costs. Some dealerships offer home trials on speakers for a fee. My friend is doing this now for an expensive, massive speaker system. I think this is a direction some companies will go as local dealerships dwindle in number. It does offer a high degree of confidence in the purchase decision when one can audition a component in his own system over a period of time.
It's interesting that VPI would offer this instead of or, in addition to, their dealer network. I like the idea of touring demo units. I would like to try one of the ultrasonic LP cleaners and compare it to the machine I have. All sorts of possibilities. |
..as for MY 3Darm.... it sits atop my turntable, however, I'm unable to set it up because I need a 200 gm counterweight. Mat promised it to me a couple of weeks ago, but I haven't received it yet. I have my Fozgometer, Mint protractor, etc. at hand. The table is absolutely level and ready to go......c'mon Mat.... |
I hear you and feel for you Stringreen. VPI generates all this goodwill in their attempt to help out and support previous and current product offerings, only to leave the customer discouraged because of poor follow through and/or execution.
If I had a nickel for every false delivery promise made by VPI, I could afford to try out the new 3D arm. If I was to give VPI a constructive suggestion, dont promise what you cant deliver. |
Still almost no commentary on the quality offered by the VPI 3D. Sad! I'm really intrigued. |
I've written on a new post about the sound of this arm....MUCH better than the 10.5, however, do not get it until the new rear counterweight is released to the public....about a month. |
Stringreen, I can't seem to find that post you started the other day. What happened to it? |
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I have forwarded to Audiogon for formal banning of this member, enough is enough, now the name calling begins.
judyazbluesSeptember 22, 2013 3:39pm
Whoa funny guy. I don't find you interesting at all. But most assholes aren't. On Monday, September 9, 2013, Stephen Chamberlain via AudiogonN wrote
stevechamSeptember 9, 2013 7:10am
Hi Judy,
I've sampled your postings and, though I too sometimes like to fly the cynicism, I also value sincere dialog. Afterall why hang with a bunch of audio geeks if you really have a life, right? I was simply wondering if there might be more to your approach than meets the eye? Certainly, you have a knack for "stirring the pot" and getting the intended responses. I would appreciate your thoughts on this, perhaps via a few sentences, of course provided your attention span can last that long.
Steve
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Seems to me you opened the door by initiating the dialogue. |
Yo Steve, still here.
Whatsssup? |
....this arm is DEAD.
And this is why I dislike vpi. They damp the hell out of their tonearm and platters. Sucks the life out of the music making it sound flat and 2 dimensional.
Roy Gandy has the right idea. I would guess the next VPI tonearm will have zero damping. "Rolleyes" |
